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To me that's the beauty of the United States and the republic that we live in. If Oklahoma has laws and rules that you think are outrageous then move to a diffe

To me that's the beauty of the United States and the republic that we live in. If Oklahoma has laws and rules that you think are outrageous then move to a different state. On top of even that, if things are just too outrageous here to stand, then move out of the country, like all the media and celebrities that claimed they would move to Canada if and when certain people were elected.

romellem 4y ago
“Just move” seems to imply they made a choice to live there in the first place. Often that isn’t true. What is a 17 year born in Oklahoma to do? Telling them to “just move” when they probably have very little money of their own and probably no family support doesn’t seem very empathetic.
- chkaloon 4y ago
  Interesting. No response.
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- nmz 4y ago
  It's a rich mans solution to a problem. "Just move", is clearly something they are easily capable of doing, everyone else? not really. you throw 20 years on a mortgage and then the rug is pulled from under you as the state itself gets worse and worse. You could say the same about refugees, Country's gotten into a bad state? just move. Don't fight for anything, just hope that someone somewhere actually took a gander at the problem and arrived at a solution that is conducive to a prosperous society.
deanCommie 4y ago
I love that you undid your own point in the second half of the post, and didn't even realize it. People SAY they want to move to Canada, but it turns out that's not actually that simple. Moving is a lot harder than folks realize - Internationally especially, but even amongst states. And it's completely not an option for someone underage.
Forgeties79 4y ago
It’s always so odd to me how people like you suggest the answer to something like Oklahoma’s wildly punitive abortion laws is for folks to just uproot their lives and move to another state immediately. Why don’t the people who hate people having a choice relocate to a less liberal area and simply not have abortions? Nobody is stopping them either, right? It’s like there’s no consideration for the fact that they have families and communities they are a part of, or that they may lack the means to easily relocate. When someone foots the bill for these people I’ll stop calling the solution dishonest and hypocritical. Until then, I suggest people who repeat it stop acting like it’s such an obvious, easy solution. This also ignores the fact that states like Missouri are attempting to criminalize going to other states for them, which means even if you have the means to travel to another state for one without wholesale moving you can’t even do that. Should my home state be able to prosecute me for smoking weed in Colorado?
albertTJames 4y ago
The day the US feels like two distinct entities with opposing views. Then you’ll have war. And most of the non-western world will rejoice at the idea of the greatest country on earth forfeiting its hegemony over its inability to control religion when it should have. Religion is the scourge of the earth, eternally at war against civilisation, education and reason; promoting war and hatred against the « barbarians » wherever it holds some ground.

romellem 4y ago

“Just move” seems to imply they made a choice to live there in the first place. Often that isn’t true. What is a 17 year born in Oklahoma to do? Telling them to “just move” when they probably have very little money of their own and probably no family support doesn’t seem very empathetic.

chkaloon 4y ago
Interesting. No response.
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nmz 4y ago
It's a rich mans solution to a problem. "Just move", is clearly something they are easily capable of doing, everyone else? not really. you throw 20 years on a mortgage and then the rug is pulled from under you as the state itself gets worse and worse. You could say the same about refugees, Country's gotten into a bad state? just move. Don't fight for anything, just hope that someone somewhere actually took a gander at the problem and arrived at a solution that is conducive to a prosperous society.

deanCommie 4y ago

I love that you undid your own point in the second half of the post, and didn't even realize it. People SAY they want to move to Canada, but it turns out that's not actually that simple. Moving is a lot harder than folks realize - Internationally especially, but even amongst states. And it's completely not an option for someone underage.

Forgeties79 4y ago

It’s always so odd to me how people like you suggest the answer to something like Oklahoma’s wildly punitive abortion laws is for folks to just uproot their lives and move to another state immediately. Why don’t the people who hate people having a choice relocate to a less liberal area and simply not have abortions? Nobody is stopping them either, right? It’s like there’s no consideration for the fact that they have families and communities they are a part of, or that they may lack the means to easily relocate. When someone foots the bill for these people I’ll stop calling the solution dishonest and hypocritical. Until then, I suggest people who repeat it stop acting like it’s such an obvious, easy solution. This also ignores the fact that states like Missouri are attempting to criminalize going to other states for them, which means even if you have the means to travel to another state for one without wholesale moving you can’t even do that. Should my home state be able to prosecute me for smoking weed in Colorado?

albertTJames 4y ago

The day the US feels like two distinct entities with opposing views. Then you’ll have war. And most of the non-western world will rejoice at the idea of the greatest country on earth forfeiting its hegemony over its inability to control religion when it should have. Religion is the scourge of the earth, eternally at war against civilisation, education and reason; promoting war and hatred against the « barbarians » wherever it holds some ground.