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What's your expectation? That IE < 9 will sink to a number that you won't have to support? That clearly isn't going to happen for many, many, many years. Micros

by mark242 15y ago

What's your expectation? That IE < 9 will sink to a number that you won't have to support? That clearly isn't going to happen for many, many, many years. Microsoft could file chapter 7, today, and you'd still see IE as a large-enough-to-matter browser share for years to come. The really interesting piece of information is the percentage of clients that support advanced CSS3 attributes without needing any kind of polyfills, and have faster Javascript engines. That percentage appears to be going up very, very quickly. We've stopped designing for "IE first", and instead are targeting browser capabilities. Modernizr for development, then extremely targeted Javascript and CSS for production.

yuhong 15y ago
FYI, I estimated 5 years when I was talking on reddit about how IE damaged XHTML, and by then XHTML was already 10 years old.
melling 15y ago
Why not? Google doesn't support IE7 for Google Apps. They claim that they will only support the two most recent versions of any browser. Should we expect that they will drop IE8 support once IE10 ships? For personal use, people need to be nudged to use a modern browser. The average person probably just uses the browser that ships with their machine and doesn't even know to upgrade.
- mattmanser 15y ago
  Depends how many XP users there will be left, the '2 versions' nonsense is just that, nonsense. XP users can only use IE8 however. So XP market share and the number of their clients still using XP will drive what Google does and does not support.
j45 15y ago
Most of all, I'm happiest the world is moving forward to recognizing and rewarding more modern and updated browsers with their usage, whatever those might be. IE wise, I'm a fan of not having to code around the weak links. Currently, I use enough standard libraries not to worry about IE too much. Still, between different IE versions, I even have to deal with bugs only specific to 6,7,8 which for some reason don't show up in other browsers. The ability to use cutting edge stuff in modern browsers does get limited programming around the weakest links (IE) instead of the strongest. 0.02 :)

by mark242 15y ago

yuhong 15y ago

FYI, I estimated 5 years when I was talking on reddit about how IE damaged XHTML, and by then XHTML was already 10 years old.

melling 15y ago

Why not? Google doesn't support IE7 for Google Apps. They claim that they will only support the two most recent versions of any browser. Should we expect that they will drop IE8 support once IE10 ships? For personal use, people need to be nudged to use a modern browser. The average person probably just uses the browser that ships with their machine and doesn't even know to upgrade.

mattmanser 15y ago
Depends how many XP users there will be left, the '2 versions' nonsense is just that, nonsense. XP users can only use IE8 however. So XP market share and the number of their clients still using XP will drive what Google does and does not support.

j45 15y ago

Most of all, I'm happiest the world is moving forward to recognizing and rewarding more modern and updated browsers with their usage, whatever those might be. IE wise, I'm a fan of not having to code around the weak links. Currently, I use enough standard libraries not to worry about IE too much. Still, between different IE versions, I even have to deal with bugs only specific to 6,7,8 which for some reason don't show up in other browsers. The ability to use cutting edge stuff in modern browsers does get limited programming around the weakest links (IE) instead of the strongest. 0.02 :)