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What is wrong with public transport? I understand in America it's not great, but having frequent, reliable, fast, clean & safe public transport is amazing. Publ

What is wrong with public transport? I understand in America it's not great, but having frequent, reliable, fast, clean & safe public transport is amazing. Public Transport in a lot of Western European countries are like that with the exception of the DeutscheBahn (DB is hell).

bergenty 4y ago
I just find waiting in a station, having to account for schedules, the annoyance of having to deal with bags and luggage and sitting close to people in that setting not all that enjoyable.
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- debesyla 4y ago
  Well, to be fair, any good public transport comes at least every 15 minutes (and great public transport comes every 5 minutes or more often), so schedules aren't a problem if the current transport system is managed good...
- dewey 4y ago
  Which public transport system is your assumption based on? I used many public transport systems (Mostly Europe and Asia) and usually you don't have to account for schedules if you are in a city as trains / subways / busses just arrive every few minutes. The rare case where you have to take a lot of luggage can always be covered by taxis. In no way is that more annoying than finding parking, sitting in traffic, taking your car to maintenance etc.
- sascha_sl 4y ago
  Needing to account for schedules is a symptom of a bad public transit system. Good systems have buses/trains show up frequently enough that you can just go without waiting more than 10 minutes, until the point you're taking regional trips, and even then about ~30 minutes of maximum wait is normal in Germany. Also, it sounds like you're talking about long-distance services here. But this thread is about local to regional services where people don't generally carry around baggage.
- usrbinbash 4y ago
  I never account for schedules for public Transport in my city, the serving frequency is short enough that I just show up at the station whenever I please. Unless there is some sort of technical or logistical problem, I almost never have to wait for more than 3-5 minutes.
angio 4y ago
In my experience americans love to talk about diversity, but hate spending time with people of a different socioeconimic class. So something like the London tube, where millionaires sit next to people that have been unemployed for the past 2 decades sounds like hell to them.
sascha_sl 4y ago
DB is honestly pretty okay. Germans just love to complain. The biggest problem with DB is that they're privatized (but state-owned). They've been cutting large parts of the rail network off for good and instead invest in large infrastructure projects with dubious benefits (and then DB executives retire as executies in construction companies hired for these projects).

bergenty 4y ago

I just find waiting in a station, having to account for schedules, the annoyance of having to deal with bags and luggage and sitting close to people in that setting not all that enjoyable.

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debesyla 4y ago
Well, to be fair, any good public transport comes at least every 15 minutes (and great public transport comes every 5 minutes or more often), so schedules aren't a problem if the current transport system is managed good...
dewey 4y ago
Which public transport system is your assumption based on? I used many public transport systems (Mostly Europe and Asia) and usually you don't have to account for schedules if you are in a city as trains / subways / busses just arrive every few minutes. The rare case where you have to take a lot of luggage can always be covered by taxis. In no way is that more annoying than finding parking, sitting in traffic, taking your car to maintenance etc.
sascha_sl 4y ago
Needing to account for schedules is a symptom of a bad public transit system. Good systems have buses/trains show up frequently enough that you can just go without waiting more than 10 minutes, until the point you're taking regional trips, and even then about ~30 minutes of maximum wait is normal in Germany. Also, it sounds like you're talking about long-distance services here. But this thread is about local to regional services where people don't generally carry around baggage.
usrbinbash 4y ago
I never account for schedules for public Transport in my city, the serving frequency is short enough that I just show up at the station whenever I please. Unless there is some sort of technical or logistical problem, I almost never have to wait for more than 3-5 minutes.

angio 4y ago

In my experience americans love to talk about diversity, but hate spending time with people of a different socioeconimic class. So something like the London tube, where millionaires sit next to people that have been unemployed for the past 2 decades sounds like hell to them.

sascha_sl 4y ago

DB is honestly pretty okay. Germans just love to complain. The biggest problem with DB is that they're privatized (but state-owned). They've been cutting large parts of the rail network off for good and instead invest in large infrastructure projects with dubious benefits (and then DB executives retire as executies in construction companies hired for these projects).