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Haha most livable if you’re a white German speaking European
by loycombinate 4y ago
Haha most livable if you’re a white German speaking European
- sirwitti 4y agoWhat makes you say that?
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- DeathArrow 4y ago
- tut-urut-utut 4y agoWrong. German is a nationality, not an ethnicity, except if you take an opinion of a few far right borderline Nazi German parties.
- DeathArrow 4y agoYou are confusing Europe with the US, Canada and Australia. Being German is akin to being Maori or Aboriginal.
- bildung 4y agoI think you mistook German for Germanic. German means citizenship in Germany, Germanics were peoples living in central Europe and Scandinavia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples
- someone_else12 4y agoGerman is also ethnicity, as I mentioned above, there are Germans e.g. in Kazakhstan and other countries, who are not German citizens.
- monocasa 4y agoHow can it be an ethnicity when Germany itself was founded out of the leftovers of the Holy Roman Empire in the early 19th century? You might have an argument for some of the constitute elements like Prussia(ns), but even that's a stretch.
- someone_else12 4y agoGerman ethnicities existed before and outside Germany, it is not the same as in the US, where Americans didn't exist before it was founded. In Europe peoples' ethnicities are not tied to the state the same way as it is in the US. For example, Volga Germans (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volga_Germans) were Russian subjects who lived outside of Germany; Baltic Germans as well. More examples - Hungarians in Romania, Turks in Bulgaria, and so on.
- postsantum 4y agoThe ability to pull nazis out of thin air never ceases to amaze me
- someone_else12 4y agoGerman is both nationality and ethnicity. There are ethnic Germans outside of Germany. For example, Germans in Kazakhstan, they report their ethnicity as "German", despite being Kazakh citizens.
- tut-urut-utut 4y agoNot in Germany. The legal system here knows only about nationality, and that’s either German or foreign. And saying “Deutsch” / “German” has a prevalent meaning of a German National, eg a holder of German citizenship. And people of German origin in Kazakhstan or other post Soviet states are referred as Russlandsdeutsche, or German Russians, not Germans. Only far right groups insist on blood theory and ethnicity as a concept.
- someone_else12 4y agoIn daily life maybe, but doesn't mean that German ethnicity doesn't exist, see Law of Return, where the state quite explicitly judges on who is German or not, based on ethnicity. I know a few Germans whose ancestors were from Volga and who lived in Kazakhstan, they were able to claim German citizenship by the virtue of the state considering them of German ethnic descent (they never had German citizenship before). I am from Kazakhstan, and the Germans who live there are pretty much Russians, yet the German state still would allow them to "return" by the virtue of their ethnicity.
- angrais 4y agoWhat? In my experience, Germans don't refer to their ethnicity as German. Besides, what if they are mixed race? Those who claim to have German ethnicity certainly could be other than white. Quite a surprising take there @DeathArrow ...
- tr33house 4y agoLol. But kinda true. Some of those cities have been hostile and openly racist to Africans and hence most Africans would find cities in Africa a lot more livable compared to the racist mess around the world notably in Europe, Asia and North America. Let's all pretend that the experience is the same for everyone, if you're not white, you know this is not necessarily true for you
- nus07 4y agoIt’s the same with say Portland , Oregon . Living experience varies wildly on the shade of skin you have and your cultural background. And yet I see it largely on top cities list in the US.