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You should be able to have fun anywhere. But seriously, should they be skewed more single 30s guys with no commitments? Should they be skewed towards the thing

You should be able to have fun anywhere. But seriously, should they be skewed more single 30s guys with no commitments? Should they be skewed towards the things that benefit the majority of people who are not single 30s guys. Saying this as a former 'single guy in his 30s' myself.

pmkiwi 4y ago
creativenolo: former child :)
DrRobinson 4y ago
He didn't say he was single. One can be a man in his 30s without kids and still not be single, not everyone want to have kids.
- creativenolo 4y ago
  Your are right - sorry.
- camillomiller 4y ago
  Indeed, I am not. I live in Berlin, by the way, and I’m not into parties and techno. Despite all its flaws Berlin has a multicultural and less white washed vibe, for example, than Frankfurt. And talking about catering to a specific type, Frankfurt and Zürich are way more catered toward a very normative idea of family and individuals A city like Berlin by these standards is deemed less liveable, but some of its flaws is what makes it way more humanly liveable. Also, Berlin has so many areas that are completely different from one another that here you can find the millionaire tech startupper with a villa at Wannsee eating out at Hasir in Kreuzberg next to deadbeat students. That’s more my idea of psychologically livable. But yeah, if you’re into skiing, banking, and fancy wines I guess Zürich’s fine.
leto_ii 4y ago
I think parent's point is pertinent. The ranking is reductive, but purports to be objective and all-encompassing. Personally I also find very well organized, well functioning Western European cities quite boring. I would take Athens over Frankfurt any day - but of course the 'objective' index says I would be wrong to do so.
prvit 4y ago
It’s difficult to figure out who this is really for. It’s clearly skewed towards lower income folks, who are decidedly not the people who read The Economist. The Patek Philippe-wearing jet set, towards whom most of the advertising on The Economist is aimed at, is going to have very different ideas of livability.
andsoitis 4y ago
A great, sophisticated city can cater to a large range of lifestyles. Whether you’re into art, sort, outdoors, movies, dining, reading, etc. Whether you’re a teen, in your thirties, or in your eighties. If you’re city doesn’t cater for this range, it simply isn’t a great city, but rather a playground for a particular type.

pmkiwi 4y ago

creativenolo: former child :)

DrRobinson 4y ago

He didn't say he was single. One can be a man in his 30s without kids and still not be single, not everyone want to have kids.

creativenolo 4y ago
Your are right - sorry.
camillomiller 4y ago
Indeed, I am not. I live in Berlin, by the way, and I’m not into parties and techno. Despite all its flaws Berlin has a multicultural and less white washed vibe, for example, than Frankfurt. And talking about catering to a specific type, Frankfurt and Zürich are way more catered toward a very normative idea of family and individuals A city like Berlin by these standards is deemed less liveable, but some of its flaws is what makes it way more humanly liveable. Also, Berlin has so many areas that are completely different from one another that here you can find the millionaire tech startupper with a villa at Wannsee eating out at Hasir in Kreuzberg next to deadbeat students. That’s more my idea of psychologically livable. But yeah, if you’re into skiing, banking, and fancy wines I guess Zürich’s fine.

leto_ii 4y ago

I think parent's point is pertinent. The ranking is reductive, but purports to be objective and all-encompassing. Personally I also find very well organized, well functioning Western European cities quite boring. I would take Athens over Frankfurt any day - but of course the 'objective' index says I would be wrong to do so.

prvit 4y ago

It’s difficult to figure out who this is really for. It’s clearly skewed towards lower income folks, who are decidedly not the people who read The Economist. The Patek Philippe-wearing jet set, towards whom most of the advertising on The Economist is aimed at, is going to have very different ideas of livability.

andsoitis 4y ago

A great, sophisticated city can cater to a large range of lifestyles. Whether you’re into art, sort, outdoors, movies, dining, reading, etc. Whether you’re a teen, in your thirties, or in your eighties. If you’re city doesn’t cater for this range, it simply isn’t a great city, but rather a playground for a particular type.