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Literally talking to you and trying to get you convinced that things are at stake is doing something. I'm also active in my local community trying to change th
by diob 4y ago
Literally talking to you and trying to get you convinced that things are at stake is doing something. I'm also active in my local community trying to change things.
Why can't I do both? It's not one or the other.
That's another problem y'all folks have beyond goalposts, you think we can't both talk and do.
We have to raise awareness, and do. Especially with how stacked the legislative is in our country to favor minority tyranny. We have to do more than be a majority, we have to be a damn super majority or more. It sucks, but we'll keep fighting.
The thing is, it's your feeling that it's hysterical, for others it's foresight. That's the thing we're talking about. Real people are going to suffer because of the decision today, that's not hysteria. If you think it is, go talk to a rape victim who is pregnant and has to carry to term.
Hell, go talk to folks who lived in the times before these "possible to overturn next" decisions happened and ask about their horror stories.
You're being dismissive because either you're ignorant of the consequences, or worse, you don't care.
And by the way, that's not a goalpost, that's a vague thing you said "I feel X is hysteria, hysteria bad". Commit to something being too far, like a real thing. Otherwise each time something happens you'll say we don't need to be worried yet.
- imgabe 4y agoI'm not a person you need to convince. I'm already on your side that abortion should be safe and legal. The way to do that is to enact laws that guarantee the right to abortion. People on the right are not a monolith. There may be a handful of lunatics who are raving about IVF or contraception, but that is not most of them. The pro-life people I've talked to online and in real life think abortion is just about irresponsible people who like to party and can't be bothered to worry about birth control. Ranting and raving at them about contraception and IVF is not going to convince them of anything as they have absolutely no opposition to either of those things.
- bavell 4y agoThis is my position and 100% my experience as well. I appreciate you responding and engaging with others here in good faith, hopefully it will open some eyes and minds.
- magicalist 4y ago"Listen, we support sane policies (just not in practice due to the political leaders we vote for), but the most important thing to discuss in this situation is your rhetorical tone" is probably not the thing to pat yourselves on the back over.
- diob 4y agoRight? It screams of privilege.
- diob 4y agoWho did you vote for?
- ModernMech 4y ago> There may be a handful of lunatics who are raving about IVF or contraception Doesn’t matter how many there are as long as 5 of them remain on the Supreme Court.