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You've got to understand, anti abortion people believe it is murder. This is akin to asking them "why do you care if some random person gets shot in south side

You've got to understand, anti abortion people believe it is murder. This is akin to asking them "why do you care if some random person gets shot in south side Chicago?" It just isn't a line of discussion that makes any sense.

alfor 4y ago
I am not 100% anti abortion, but I think it’s a bad thing. The law said that at one day after birth if you kill a baby it’s murder but one day before it’s fine, do as you please it’s ’her choice’. I think we are too far gone in that direction, a fetus still something, a human life in formation, damn you would face legal consequence if you mistreated a dog.
- hamburglar 4y ago
  It doesn't seem like you've considered the possibility that a fetus with no consciousness being terminated may be more humane than forcing it into the hell of being raised by parents that don't want it or can't provide for it. More people should accept that what's going on inside someone else's body is none of their business.
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    The person you're responding to specifically said "one day before birth", I don't think you can find someone who credibly argues that a fetus at that stage is not a conscious human being. Whoever you're disagreeing with you're not responding to them.
    - hamburglar 4y ago
      Ok, well if he's only considering "one day before birth" scenarios he's gone reductio ad absurdum on the whole issue and he's also fighting a roughly nonexistent boogeyman. His own personal strawman, if you will.
      - alfor 4y ago
        It’s just a way to show that a fetus is still something. With pure materialist mindset we would say that it’s progressively closer to being a human as we get close to birth. I find it strange that we get from zero value before birth to full human live once born and try to disregard the baby before birth. I think we have to do a conscience examination, are we blind to something because it’s more convenient for us?
        ModernMech 4y ago
        > I find it strange that we get from zero value before birth to full human live once born and try to disregard the baby before birth. Do we though? Abortions statistics would show that progressively fewer abortions are performed the later the pregnancy, with 99% occurring before 21 weeks.

alfor 4y ago

I am not 100% anti abortion, but I think it’s a bad thing. The law said that at one day after birth if you kill a baby it’s murder but one day before it’s fine, do as you please it’s ’her choice’. I think we are too far gone in that direction, a fetus still something, a human life in formation, damn you would face legal consequence if you mistreated a dog.

hamburglar 4y ago
It doesn't seem like you've considered the possibility that a fetus with no consciousness being terminated may be more humane than forcing it into the hell of being raised by parents that don't want it or can't provide for it. More people should accept that what's going on inside someone else's body is none of their business.
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  The person you're responding to specifically said "one day before birth", I don't think you can find someone who credibly argues that a fetus at that stage is not a conscious human being. Whoever you're disagreeing with you're not responding to them.
  - hamburglar 4y ago
    Ok, well if he's only considering "one day before birth" scenarios he's gone reductio ad absurdum on the whole issue and he's also fighting a roughly nonexistent boogeyman. His own personal strawman, if you will.
    - alfor 4y ago
      It’s just a way to show that a fetus is still something. With pure materialist mindset we would say that it’s progressively closer to being a human as we get close to birth. I find it strange that we get from zero value before birth to full human live once born and try to disregard the baby before birth. I think we have to do a conscience examination, are we blind to something because it’s more convenient for us?
      - ModernMech 4y ago
        > I find it strange that we get from zero value before birth to full human live once born and try to disregard the baby before birth. Do we though? Abortions statistics would show that progressively fewer abortions are performed the later the pregnancy, with 99% occurring before 21 weeks.