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You can't avoid polarization by just meshing people together. If anything, it can backfire. Simply a fact of life, that we are different. Our values, philosoph

You can't avoid polarization by just meshing people together. If anything, it can backfire. Simply a fact of life, that we are different. Our values, philosophies, ethics, religions, perceptions, etc. We are different, and sometimes our differences are irreconcilable. Forced multiculturalism and diversity will backfire. That's just a fact of life. People who are for abortion won't want to be forced to buddy buddy together with people who are against abortion, and vice versa.

hedora 4y ago
The point isn't to change neo-nazis minds. The point is to tip state demographics so that the Republican party never holds 40 senate seats or the presidency again.
- immigrantheart 4y ago
  The fact that you are straight calling people neo-nazis, and say that "so that Republican party never holds presidency again" proves my point. There are people on the other side of the fence that wants the opposite what you want.
  - hedora 4y ago
    They are a tiny minority at this point. I don't care what they want. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship. The polls agree with me. Edit: Republican leadership is seriously considering banning birth control and sodomy at this point, and jailing rape victims for having questionable miscarriages. I do not believe these policies align with the opinions of average Republican voters. However, this is what Republican politicians need to support to avoid being primaried.
    - andrekandre 4y ago
      > However, this is what Republican politicians need to support to avoid being primaried. this is a key issue, as long as someone can make it through with less than 40% favorability, these things will keep happening i think...
      - hedora 4y ago
        It only takes about 25% favorability if everyone votes party lines. I suspect there's something to be said there about game theory and political incentives.
    - betwixthewires 4y ago
      Literally every state that bans abortion has concessions for rape victims, not a single one enforces any laws against birth control. I'm not sure who you think you're fighting here.
      - dillondoyle 4y ago
        Factually wrong: "Of the 22 states with abortion bans that will instantly take effect if the landmark Supreme Court ruling is overturned, 10 have passed laws that make no exceptions for rape or incest: Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas." https://news.yahoo.com/some-republican-states-set-to-ban-abortion-without-exceptions-for-rape-and-incest-204305491.html https://news.yahoo.com/some-republican-states-set-to-ban-abo... --- Nazi is a loaded term for sure but I don't know what else to call it. Not all Republicans have this behavior and or hold these policy aims. But a shocking amount of people do. Many hold up the ideals of fascism. And they use actual Nazi tactics. banning books. passing laws that actively discriminate. using hate & violent propaganda/speech for political ends. scariest: dehumanizing minority groups which enables their supporters to commit 'righteous violence.' e.g. labeling queer people 'groomers' (or sadly ironically anyone who stands up against the state banning books). using government law enforcement to the above ends. see recent police escorting proud boys into a library to yell at and intimidate a bunch of kids who were with their parents, only because a drag queen was reading to them. Talk about leaving parenting up to the parents. Or filling up a van with a not so well organized militia to storm pride in tactical gear. How about running black teachers out of town because of nonexistent CRT nonsense. Then following her to her next job which had nothing to do with diversity & inclusion, which is how evil for some reason. and the biggest of them all: attacking Democracy and the foundations of this country. Attempting to overturn a free and fair election. Attacking the seat of power in an attempt to prevent the peaceful handover of Government.
        immigrantheart 4y ago
        There are so many problems with your statement I don’t even know where to start. It is pointless to debate.
- betwixthewires 4y ago
  Everyone that doesn't think like you is a neo Nazi. Got it.

hedora 4y ago

The point isn't to change neo-nazis minds. The point is to tip state demographics so that the Republican party never holds 40 senate seats or the presidency again.

immigrantheart 4y ago
The fact that you are straight calling people neo-nazis, and say that "so that Republican party never holds presidency again" proves my point. There are people on the other side of the fence that wants the opposite what you want.
- hedora 4y ago
  They are a tiny minority at this point. I don't care what they want. This is a democracy, not a dictatorship. The polls agree with me. Edit: Republican leadership is seriously considering banning birth control and sodomy at this point, and jailing rape victims for having questionable miscarriages. I do not believe these policies align with the opinions of average Republican voters. However, this is what Republican politicians need to support to avoid being primaried.
  - andrekandre 4y ago
    > However, this is what Republican politicians need to support to avoid being primaried. this is a key issue, as long as someone can make it through with less than 40% favorability, these things will keep happening i think...
    - hedora 4y ago
      It only takes about 25% favorability if everyone votes party lines. I suspect there's something to be said there about game theory and political incentives.
  - betwixthewires 4y ago
    Literally every state that bans abortion has concessions for rape victims, not a single one enforces any laws against birth control. I'm not sure who you think you're fighting here.
    - dillondoyle 4y ago
      Factually wrong: "Of the 22 states with abortion bans that will instantly take effect if the landmark Supreme Court ruling is overturned, 10 have passed laws that make no exceptions for rape or incest: Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas." https://news.yahoo.com/some-republican-states-set-to-ban-abortion-without-exceptions-for-rape-and-incest-204305491.html https://news.yahoo.com/some-republican-states-set-to-ban-abo... --- Nazi is a loaded term for sure but I don't know what else to call it. Not all Republicans have this behavior and or hold these policy aims. But a shocking amount of people do. Many hold up the ideals of fascism. And they use actual Nazi tactics. banning books. passing laws that actively discriminate. using hate & violent propaganda/speech for political ends. scariest: dehumanizing minority groups which enables their supporters to commit 'righteous violence.' e.g. labeling queer people 'groomers' (or sadly ironically anyone who stands up against the state banning books). using government law enforcement to the above ends. see recent police escorting proud boys into a library to yell at and intimidate a bunch of kids who were with their parents, only because a drag queen was reading to them. Talk about leaving parenting up to the parents. Or filling up a van with a not so well organized militia to storm pride in tactical gear. How about running black teachers out of town because of nonexistent CRT nonsense. Then following her to her next job which had nothing to do with diversity & inclusion, which is how evil for some reason. and the biggest of them all: attacking Democracy and the foundations of this country. Attempting to overturn a free and fair election. Attacking the seat of power in an attempt to prevent the peaceful handover of Government.
      - immigrantheart 4y ago
        There are so many problems with your statement I don’t even know where to start. It is pointless to debate.
betwixthewires 4y ago
Everyone that doesn't think like you is a neo Nazi. Got it.