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Because Copilot can generate verbatim copies of code, with only the whitespace changed in some cases. The AI art generators are trained on copyrighted work, wh

Because Copilot can generate verbatim copies of code, with only the whitespace changed in some cases. The AI art generators are trained on copyrighted work, which is still a legal grey area, but they don't stamp or copy/paste parts of the source images unchanged into larger ones. Though I'd imagine if you used the same algorithms for something like logo or typeface generation you'd run into trademark issues.

kromem 4y ago
Except it now has a setting that will prevent output that matches against the training set, and even before that verbatim output was only in cases of blank files, particularly in blank projects. This is a straw man with examples caused by going out of the way to create the environment in which they would occur, when in fact they are edge chases outside the vast majority of usage. I'd be willing to bet there's a MUCH higher likelihood that a junior dev is copying in part of a SO answer without considering licence than that Copilot generates an identifiable and unique snippet in an actual codebase with thousands of existing LOC.
- aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
  > even before that verbatim output was only in cases of blank files, particularly in blank projects. Don't be so sure about that.
- lovich 4y ago
  I don’t know how it is amongst FAANGs but I’m sure more than one of my previous employers chief legal counsel would have had an aneurysm if they saw how much code was copy and pasted from not just stackoverflow but devs asking their friends at other companies for help, who had no issue copy and pasting the code they wrote at work over. I had somewhat of a legal background? Understanding? Whatever term means I’m not a lawyer started down pre law and learned a few tidbits so I was concerned enough to always start from scratch instead of copy and pasting when helping. Fuck me though if a good 25%-33% of my coworkers functions weren’t an exact copy of what’s in other companies codebase

kromem 4y ago

Except it now has a setting that will prevent output that matches against the training set, and even before that verbatim output was only in cases of blank files, particularly in blank projects. This is a straw man with examples caused by going out of the way to create the environment in which they would occur, when in fact they are edge chases outside the vast majority of usage. I'd be willing to bet there's a MUCH higher likelihood that a junior dev is copying in part of a SO answer without considering licence than that Copilot generates an identifiable and unique snippet in an actual codebase with thousands of existing LOC.

aaaaaaaaata 4y ago
> even before that verbatim output was only in cases of blank files, particularly in blank projects. Don't be so sure about that.
lovich 4y ago
I don’t know how it is amongst FAANGs but I’m sure more than one of my previous employers chief legal counsel would have had an aneurysm if they saw how much code was copy and pasted from not just stackoverflow but devs asking their friends at other companies for help, who had no issue copy and pasting the code they wrote at work over. I had somewhat of a legal background? Understanding? Whatever term means I’m not a lawyer started down pre law and learned a few tidbits so I was concerned enough to always start from scratch instead of copy and pasting when helping. Fuck me though if a good 25%-33% of my coworkers functions weren’t an exact copy of what’s in other companies codebase