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I had a chuckle at this note: > First, it seems to likely show that the advice that it's very important to keep line lengths short is incorrect since, if that

I had a chuckle at this note: > First, it seems to likely show that the advice that it's very important to keep line lengths short is incorrect since, if that had a very large impact, it would've overwhelmed the other changes and resulted in reduced engagement and not increased engagement. Well, I can't speak for anyone else, but I read all articles on that site with Reader view since they're impossible to read any other way. There's good content there, but man is it a pain in the ass to read!

bribri 4y ago
Yeah I appreciate what he’s trying to do with the minimal brutalist web design but I need a Reader view to make it through the content.
- pwillia7 4y ago
  I barely made it through on my ultra wide monitor and was mad when he said no one cared -- I DID! But to his credit I did read the entire article.
taftster 4y ago
Shouldn't that somewhat be the point, though? Shouldn't we have control over the look & feel, layout, design of the websites we visit? I'm feeling like you did exactly what you should have done. You chose to read the site in a style (Reader Mode) that benefits you. Maybe someone else chooses a style, set of fonts, or overrides the margins manually. I think we've gone too far with HTML styling. I'd much prefer unstyled semantic markup and then let my theme choices display the content. Early HTML was quite a bit more like this. Gopher protocol and Project Gemini might be other examples of content without "design."
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  You’re just saying user defaults don’t matter
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  Now consider how much time you want to spend configuring every website you click in to from HN because they have bad defaults. That’s probably zero. Why would you even make people have to take an extra step to comfortably read your content?

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I had a chuckle at this note: > First, it seems to likely show that the advice that it's very important to keep line lengths short is incorrect since, if that

by thewebcount 4y ago

bribri 4y ago
Yeah I appreciate what he’s trying to do with the minimal brutalist web design but I need a Reader view to make it through the content.
- pwillia7 4y ago
  I barely made it through on my ultra wide monitor and was mad when he said no one cared -- I DID! But to his credit I did read the entire article.
taftster 4y ago
Shouldn't that somewhat be the point, though? Shouldn't we have control over the look & feel, layout, design of the websites we visit? I'm feeling like you did exactly what you should have done. You chose to read the site in a style (Reader Mode) that benefits you. Maybe someone else chooses a style, set of fonts, or overrides the margins manually. I think we've gone too far with HTML styling. I'd much prefer unstyled semantic markup and then let my theme choices display the content. Early HTML was quite a bit more like this. Gopher protocol and Project Gemini might be other examples of content without "design."
- wahnfrieden 4y ago
  You’re just saying user defaults don’t matter
- hombre_fatal 4y ago
  Now consider how much time you want to spend configuring every website you click in to from HN because they have bad defaults. That’s probably zero. Why would you even make people have to take an extra step to comfortably read your content?