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> The same crowd that wants to prevent abortions also wants to prohibit contraception, allow unrestricted gun ownership, and cut back on any social programs tha
by philsnow 4y ago
> The same crowd that wants to prevent abortions also wants to prohibit contraception, allow unrestricted gun ownership, and cut back on any social programs that support families.
I see this kind of thought process all the time: when some people don't get traction with their arguments on a particular issue, they ascribe other beliefs to their opponent and call those into question. This is both ad hominem and whataboutism, and it doesn't win over anybody's heart or mind, it just "others" the opponent, further entrenching tribalism.
The "crowd" is diverse and contains multitudes. If you want to change minds, engage with the arguments, not with the arguers.
- hackyhacky 4y agoThe argument that the right wants to prohibit contraception is not some specious straw-man that I made up: it is stated plainly in Justice Thomas's opinion. And it's a position that I believe is supported by a large portion of the population in states where abortion is now illegal. We see more and more antagonism against gays and trans people. Moreover, because the Dobbs decision dismantled the right to privacy, it has cleared the way to destroy the legal foundation on which other important decisions are based, such a gay marriage. If you don't want to be judged as a tribe, you need to take a stand. If you support contraception and gay marriage, then support them. Right now, though, the right is supporting more and more extreme ideologues.