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How is that link relevant? We're not in 2020.

by kgwgk 4y ago

Izkata 4y ago
It's the source for GP's source. Ask them.
- kgwgk 4y ago
  GP didn’t send a link to that particular outdated section within that site. July 9, 2020 This article has not been updated recently You did. Why? How are your link and quote related to the « 200k+ cases per day in June 2022 » claim? If you don’t know yourself, asking GP won’t help.
  - Izkata 4y ago
    On the page they link to, in the section the 241k came from, is a link that says "More detail on the analysis". It goes to my link.
    - kgwgk 4y ago
      I still don't get how that is related to the "The 241K number is total gibberish." statement that follows. Is it because they should have removed the "More detail on the analysis" link to a no-longer-updated analysis and not removing the link invalidates the latest results somehow? Or is there anything in that analysis of the results as of two years ago that discredits also everything that came later?
      - Izkata 4y ago
        It's the source they're giving for the number, and there's nothing there that indicates it's valid. From every other source unrelated to that one, the UK's numbers have never been as high as they're claiming. Therefore, it's gibberish.
        kgwgk 4y ago
        From every other source? The "Official estimates of incidence of new PCR-positive cases" published by the Office for National Statistics in the latest release of the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey [1] add up to 160k per day in the UK for the week from 28 May to 3 June. The official estimate of people testing positive for COVID-19 has increased strongly since then - almost doubling from 900k for the week 27 May to 2 June to 1740k for the week 11 to 18 June. A 50% increase in the number of daily new infections in three weeks doesn't seem so implausible and when the official estimate of daily new cases for this week gets published it may not be exactly 241k but it won't be much less. Definitely not an order of magnitude less! [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/24june2022 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan... Edit: by the way, the official estimate of incidence (daily new cases) from the ONS was over 650k for the week 13 to 19 March.
        Izkata 4y ago
        That's an estimation of unreported cases rather than actual counts. Actual counts are what the rest of us are talking about.
        kgwgk 4y ago
        TFA says “Covid cases are rising again. In the UK, they have broken through the 200,000 infections-a-day threshold for the first time since April.” You can choose to talk about whatever you want but given the 200k figure and April reference it’s quite obvious that they are talking about the total number of infections in the UK - not just the laboratory-confirmed count.

How is that link relevant? We're not in 2020.

by kgwgk 4y ago

How is that link relevant? We're not in 2020.

Izkata 4y ago

It's the source for GP's source. Ask them.

kgwgk 4y ago
GP didn’t send a link to that particular outdated section within that site. July 9, 2020 This article has not been updated recently You did. Why? How are your link and quote related to the « 200k+ cases per day in June 2022 » claim? If you don’t know yourself, asking GP won’t help.
- Izkata 4y ago
  On the page they link to, in the section the 241k came from, is a link that says "More detail on the analysis". It goes to my link.
  - kgwgk 4y ago
    I still don't get how that is related to the "The 241K number is total gibberish." statement that follows. Is it because they should have removed the "More detail on the analysis" link to a no-longer-updated analysis and not removing the link invalidates the latest results somehow? Or is there anything in that analysis of the results as of two years ago that discredits also everything that came later?
    - Izkata 4y ago
      It's the source they're giving for the number, and there's nothing there that indicates it's valid. From every other source unrelated to that one, the UK's numbers have never been as high as they're claiming. Therefore, it's gibberish.
      - kgwgk 4y ago
        From every other source? The "Official estimates of incidence of new PCR-positive cases" published by the Office for National Statistics in the latest release of the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Infection Survey [1] add up to 160k per day in the UK for the week from 28 May to 3 June. The official estimate of people testing positive for COVID-19 has increased strongly since then - almost doubling from 900k for the week 27 May to 2 June to 1740k for the week 11 to 18 June. A 50% increase in the number of daily new infections in three weeks doesn't seem so implausible and when the official estimate of daily new cases for this week gets published it may not be exactly 241k but it won't be much less. Definitely not an order of magnitude less! [1] https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/bulletins/coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveypilot/24june2022 https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthan... Edit: by the way, the official estimate of incidence (daily new cases) from the ONS was over 650k for the week 13 to 19 March.
        Izkata 4y ago
        That's an estimation of unreported cases rather than actual counts. Actual counts are what the rest of us are talking about.
        kgwgk 4y ago
        TFA says “Covid cases are rising again. In the UK, they have broken through the 200,000 infections-a-day threshold for the first time since April.” You can choose to talk about whatever you want but given the 200k figure and April reference it’s quite obvious that they are talking about the total number of infections in the UK - not just the laboratory-confirmed count.