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Ridiculous. A fetus is not a person. A pig or a cow is more sentient. If we're going to call a fetus a person, first we gotta do intelligent livestock and ou

Ridiculous. A fetus is not a person. A pig or a cow is more sentient. If we're going to call a fetus a person, first we gotta do intelligent livestock and outlaw killing animals for food. The difference is that most Americans would be outraged if the government forbade them from eating meat, because that takes away their freedom and forces them to spend slightly more money on food that doesn't taste quite as good. It astounds me that these same people think the government should have the power to force someone to give birth to a child they don't want and can't afford. The amount of suffering that will cause is unimaginable. Of course, most people who are against abortion won't hesitate to get one if they or their daughter needs it. It's always different when it's your life and dreams that are about to be destroyed.

throw1122334 4y ago
codeguro 4y ago
- catlifeonmars 4y ago
  Idk man. How come human lives have more value than other primate lives? Sounds like a perspective that comes from privilege (as in lucky enough to to be born human.
  - codeguro 4y ago
    Name one civilization raises primates to be eaten like cattle.
    - jyounker 4y ago
      People eat primates, but they're too smart and violent. Ranching them for meat doesn't make economic sense when you can breed pigs.
      - codeguro 4y ago
        Name one civilization raises primates to be eaten like cattle.
- trs8080 4y ago
  > And yes, I do think that human life trumps over bodily autonomy. So you'd be ok with government agents showing up at your door in the middle of the night and taking you involuntarily to the hospital to donate some of your organs to someone in the ER?
  - codeguro 4y ago
    - trs8080 4y ago
      > The relationship and obligations that a mother has to her child are fundamentally different to the relationship and obligations I have to a random stranger in the ER You define "child" based on a religious definition. That's /your/ religion, not mine. Feel free to follow it all you want, you don't need to involve the rest of us. We're not talking about children, we're talking about fetuses. > Do you really want to be play that game? Because I'll have a field day with you. Ah, an internet tough guy. Feel free to "have a field day." Your entire argument is premised on the idea that a fetus is a human life, which only has basis in religion.
      - codeguro 4y ago
        > You define "child" based on a religious definition. That's /your/ religion, not mine. Feel free to follow it all you want, you don't need to involve the rest of us. We're not talking about children, we're talking about fetuses. Fetuses are unborn children. I realize this definition is rather inconvenient to your fragile narrative, but it is THE definition, not just my definition. Please refer to the dictionary, #4: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/child https://www.dictionary.com/browse/child > a human fetus Or the Merriam webster dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child > 3a : an unborn or recently born person or the oxford dictionary: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/child https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng... > a young human who is not yet an adult Please, keep talking. I am enjoying this. Next you'll argue categorical definitions and facts are a religion.

throw1122334 4y ago

codeguro 4y ago

catlifeonmars 4y ago
Idk man. How come human lives have more value than other primate lives? Sounds like a perspective that comes from privilege (as in lucky enough to to be born human.
- codeguro 4y ago
  Name one civilization raises primates to be eaten like cattle.
  - jyounker 4y ago
    People eat primates, but they're too smart and violent. Ranching them for meat doesn't make economic sense when you can breed pigs.
    - codeguro 4y ago
      Name one civilization raises primates to be eaten like cattle.
trs8080 4y ago
> And yes, I do think that human life trumps over bodily autonomy. So you'd be ok with government agents showing up at your door in the middle of the night and taking you involuntarily to the hospital to donate some of your organs to someone in the ER?
- codeguro 4y ago
  - trs8080 4y ago
    > The relationship and obligations that a mother has to her child are fundamentally different to the relationship and obligations I have to a random stranger in the ER You define "child" based on a religious definition. That's /your/ religion, not mine. Feel free to follow it all you want, you don't need to involve the rest of us. We're not talking about children, we're talking about fetuses. > Do you really want to be play that game? Because I'll have a field day with you. Ah, an internet tough guy. Feel free to "have a field day." Your entire argument is premised on the idea that a fetus is a human life, which only has basis in religion.
    - codeguro 4y ago
      > You define "child" based on a religious definition. That's /your/ religion, not mine. Feel free to follow it all you want, you don't need to involve the rest of us. We're not talking about children, we're talking about fetuses. Fetuses are unborn children. I realize this definition is rather inconvenient to your fragile narrative, but it is THE definition, not just my definition. Please refer to the dictionary, #4: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/child https://www.dictionary.com/browse/child > a human fetus Or the Merriam webster dictionary: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/child > 3a : an unborn or recently born person or the oxford dictionary: https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/child https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/eng... > a young human who is not yet an adult Please, keep talking. I am enjoying this. Next you'll argue categorical definitions and facts are a religion.