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> Today 92% of Republicans are to the right of the median Democrat, and 94% of Democrats are to the left of the median Republican > The rise of ideological uni

> Today 92% of Republicans are to the right of the median Democrat, and 94% of Democrats are to the left of the median Republican > The rise of ideological uniformity has been much more pronounced among those who are the most politically active. Today, almost four-in-ten (38%) politically engaged Democrats are consistent liberals, up from just 8% in 1994. The change among Republicans since then appears less dramatic – 33% express consistently conservative views, up from 23% in the midst of the 1994 “Republican Revolution.” But a decade ago, just 10% of politically engaged Republicans had across-the-board conservative attitudes. [0]: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/ https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/06/12/political-po...

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throwaway5752 4y ago
Comparing median figures are useless, any statistician can see that immediately. It is completely symmetric to movement in the distribution in either group. It only tells us about relative movement between the distributions, not whether either side is moving relative to prior positions. Did you read the rest of it about the substantial difference at the fringe? Republican extremism exceeds Democratic extremism by 25-100% depending on the metric you look at. This is the difference between consistently-party aligned groups on both sides: * strongly negative view of the other party: R 15% greater than D (43% vs 38%) * important to live in a place where people share my views: R 40% more than D (50% vs 35%) * most close friends share my viewpoints: R 30% more than D (63% vs 49%) * would be unhappy if an immediate family member married someone of the other party: R 25% more than D (30% vs 23%) * opposing party policies jeopardize the nation's wellbeing: R 30% more than D (66% vs 50%) Conservatives are far more likely to not want diversity of thought around them, either "But far more liberals than conservatives think it is important that a community have racial and ethnic diversity (76% vs. 20%). At the same time, conservatives are more likely than liberals to attach importance to living in a place where many people share their religious faith (57% vs. 17% of liberals)." I would encourage people to look with their own eyes at the language in the dominant party of the 2nd most populous state in the country: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-presidential-gun-politics-united-states-b4260882260dfc913766b5304900d00b https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-pres... It is so easy to say "A pox on both their houses" but it is incorrect, and you will miss a dire problem for the country in doing so. Greitens ad is one example of violent eliminationist rhethoric against party moderates in the Republican party: https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/gop-takes-dark-turn-violent-images-enemy-rhetoric-rcna34493 https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/gop-takes-... - this is a major state and a leading candidate, not a fringe one. The Buffalo mass-shooting was direc caused by replacement theory anger, which is widely believed by Republicans (70%, https://www.splcenter.org/news/2022/06/01/poll-finds-support-great-replacement-hard-right-ideas https://www.splcenter.org/news/2022/06/01/poll-finds-support...). I don't know if you will be believe me, but people should get active or make fallback plans to emigrate or leave. This isn't a drill.
- kolanos 4y ago
  I wonder if you realize that you come off as an extremist?

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throwaway5752 4y ago

Comparing median figures are useless, any statistician can see that immediately. It is completely symmetric to movement in the distribution in either group. It only tells us about relative movement between the distributions, not whether either side is moving relative to prior positions. Did you read the rest of it about the substantial difference at the fringe? Republican extremism exceeds Democratic extremism by 25-100% depending on the metric you look at. This is the difference between consistently-party aligned groups on both sides: * strongly negative view of the other party: R 15% greater than D (43% vs 38%) * important to live in a place where people share my views: R 40% more than D (50% vs 35%) * most close friends share my viewpoints: R 30% more than D (63% vs 49%) * would be unhappy if an immediate family member married someone of the other party: R 25% more than D (30% vs 23%) * opposing party policies jeopardize the nation's wellbeing: R 30% more than D (66% vs 50%) Conservatives are far more likely to not want diversity of thought around them, either "But far more liberals than conservatives think it is important that a community have racial and ethnic diversity (76% vs. 20%). At the same time, conservatives are more likely than liberals to attach importance to living in a place where many people share their religious faith (57% vs. 17% of liberals)." I would encourage people to look with their own eyes at the language in the dominant party of the 2nd most populous state in the country: https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-presidential-gun-politics-united-states-b4260882260dfc913766b5304900d00b https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-biden-pres... It is so easy to say "A pox on both their houses" but it is incorrect, and you will miss a dire problem for the country in doing so. Greitens ad is one example of violent eliminationist rhethoric against party moderates in the Republican party: https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/gop-takes-dark-turn-violent-images-enemy-rhetoric-rcna34493 https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/first-read/gop-takes-... - this is a major state and a leading candidate, not a fringe one. The Buffalo mass-shooting was direc caused by replacement theory anger, which is widely believed by Republicans (70%, https://www.splcenter.org/news/2022/06/01/poll-finds-support-great-replacement-hard-right-ideas https://www.splcenter.org/news/2022/06/01/poll-finds-support...). I don't know if you will be believe me, but people should get active or make fallback plans to emigrate or leave. This isn't a drill.

kolanos 4y ago
I wonder if you realize that you come off as an extremist?