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Are they having sex at the border of Texas? They should probably be arrested for that. Your assertion is obviously ridiculous, traveling gay men will not be arr

Are they having sex at the border of Texas? They should probably be arrested for that. Your assertion is obviously ridiculous, traveling gay men will not be arrested simply for being gay. It’s the young gay men trapped in the state we should be concerned about. It’s really not just as easy as moving to whatever you state has the laws you like as most of us are trapped by the locality where our support networks are.

mattnewton 4y ago
That is definitely a bigger problem, but the original poster seemed already ready to write those people off when talking about the impact of poor red state women as a sacrifice for a democratic process. I am arguing that doesn’t give the gay couple traveling through any democratic rights and absolutely does restrict their rights. The abortion bans in Texas has ample precedent for criminalizing behavior that occurred in other states. Sodomy laws also have a history of selective enforcement specifically to persecute gay people.
klyrs 4y ago
> Your assertion is obviously ridiculous, traveling gay men will not be arrested simply for being gay. Your assertion is oblivious to the modern sensibilities of "Law and Order." Gay men will be arrested on "reasonable suspicion" of having had gay sex. And even when the suspicion is not found to be reasonable, there will be zero ramifications for the arresting officers.
- Arrath 4y ago
  And their assets will be forfeit, seized by the arresting agency as aiding and abetting the sodomy. What a wonderful process.
- FireBeyond 4y ago
  > Gay men will be arrested on "reasonable suspicion" of having had gay sex. "reasonable" in this case meaning "visiting the home of another gay man", let alone "living with one".
gambiting 4y ago
Are you like....completely unaware of recent(last century) history? Like....at all??? Gay people were being arrested on charges of sodomy all the time, even if they were never caught in the act.
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  There is a conspicuous lack of education around modern civil rights movements. WW1 and WW2 suck the air out of the history classroom leaving room for little else. I was 35 years old when I first learned about the MOVE bombing[1] and this year years-old when I learned about the Three Articles[2] rules. Anyone else unaware of these until recently? If not, where did you learn about them? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing 2. https://www.history.com/news/stonewall-riots-lgbtq-drag-three-article-rule https://www.history.com/news/stonewall-riots-lgbtq-drag-thre...
  - heretogetout 4y ago
    Yeah, I am 95% neither of these were taught where I grew up (a lefty area in a solid lefty state).

mattnewton 4y ago

That is definitely a bigger problem, but the original poster seemed already ready to write those people off when talking about the impact of poor red state women as a sacrifice for a democratic process. I am arguing that doesn’t give the gay couple traveling through any democratic rights and absolutely does restrict their rights. The abortion bans in Texas has ample precedent for criminalizing behavior that occurred in other states. Sodomy laws also have a history of selective enforcement specifically to persecute gay people.

klyrs 4y ago

> Your assertion is obviously ridiculous, traveling gay men will not be arrested simply for being gay. Your assertion is oblivious to the modern sensibilities of "Law and Order." Gay men will be arrested on "reasonable suspicion" of having had gay sex. And even when the suspicion is not found to be reasonable, there will be zero ramifications for the arresting officers.

Arrath 4y ago
And their assets will be forfeit, seized by the arresting agency as aiding and abetting the sodomy. What a wonderful process.
FireBeyond 4y ago
> Gay men will be arrested on "reasonable suspicion" of having had gay sex. "reasonable" in this case meaning "visiting the home of another gay man", let alone "living with one".

gambiting 4y ago

Are you like....completely unaware of recent(last century) history? Like....at all??? Gay people were being arrested on charges of sodomy all the time, even if they were never caught in the act.

kelseyfrog 4y ago
There is a conspicuous lack of education around modern civil rights movements. WW1 and WW2 suck the air out of the history classroom leaving room for little else. I was 35 years old when I first learned about the MOVE bombing[1] and this year years-old when I learned about the Three Articles[2] rules. Anyone else unaware of these until recently? If not, where did you learn about them? 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing 2. https://www.history.com/news/stonewall-riots-lgbtq-drag-three-article-rule https://www.history.com/news/stonewall-riots-lgbtq-drag-thre...
- heretogetout 4y ago
  Yeah, I am 95% neither of these were taught where I grew up (a lefty area in a solid lefty state).