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What I find interesting is how for many many years people thought Roe would be safe because it was mostly useful as a political tool. A wedge to drive into vot

What I find interesting is how for many many years people thought Roe would be safe because it was mostly useful as a political tool. A wedge to drive into voting blocks to make sure they stay Republican despite everything else they are doing. It was in nobody's interest to actually repeal it. What nobody expected was for decades of indoctrination to produce true believers that would actually be elected to the Supreme Court. So now we are in a situation where the dog has caught the car and it's not sure what happens now.

superdisk 4y ago
What? Clarence Thomas is an old man.
cryptonector 4y ago
Arguably Roe distorted national politics. This ruling might now distort local politics. It's going to be interesting. We might well see a multi-decade swing to the Democrats!
- jandrese 4y ago
  I wouldn't count on a major Democratic victory out of this. The propaganda machine that has been feeding this issue for the past few decades is still alive and well, they will pivot to some other issue (CRT, Wokeism, Black Lives Burning Down Entire Cities, etc...) if they have to. Abortion was just something that polled really well with the base and so they went with it, but it's not the only game in town.
  - AlexandrB 4y ago
    > The propaganda machine that has been feeding this issue for the past few decades is still alive and well, they will pivot to some other issue (CRT, Wokeism, Black Lives Burning Down Entire Cities, etc...) if they have to. It already has. See all the hysterics about how any discussion of same sex relationships or trans identity around children is "grooming".
jmull 4y ago
I’ve never heard of this. As far as I’m aware, the vast majority of “pro life” and “pro choice” proponents are serious. It has been used (built, really) as a political tool as you say, but the victors here are quite happy to have won. And they know what happens now. (It’s gay marriage and trans rights.) It’s not like there’s a shortage of political wedge issues. And since this is about power, not principle, they will always find more.

superdisk 4y ago

What? Clarence Thomas is an old man.

cryptonector 4y ago

Arguably Roe distorted national politics. This ruling might now distort local politics. It's going to be interesting. We might well see a multi-decade swing to the Democrats!

jandrese 4y ago
I wouldn't count on a major Democratic victory out of this. The propaganda machine that has been feeding this issue for the past few decades is still alive and well, they will pivot to some other issue (CRT, Wokeism, Black Lives Burning Down Entire Cities, etc...) if they have to. Abortion was just something that polled really well with the base and so they went with it, but it's not the only game in town.
- AlexandrB 4y ago
  > The propaganda machine that has been feeding this issue for the past few decades is still alive and well, they will pivot to some other issue (CRT, Wokeism, Black Lives Burning Down Entire Cities, etc...) if they have to. It already has. See all the hysterics about how any discussion of same sex relationships or trans identity around children is "grooming".

jmull 4y ago

I’ve never heard of this. As far as I’m aware, the vast majority of “pro life” and “pro choice” proponents are serious. It has been used (built, really) as a political tool as you say, but the victors here are quite happy to have won. And they know what happens now. (It’s gay marriage and trans rights.) It’s not like there’s a shortage of political wedge issues. And since this is about power, not principle, they will always find more.