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Do you have stats on views of abortion by trimester? Here's [0] one from last year, which finds that 54% of people think third trimester abortions should be ill

Do you have stats on views of abortion by trimester? Here's [0] one from last year, which finds that 54% of people think third trimester abortions should be illegal in all cases - (EDIT: presumably) including health of the mother - and 65% think most or all abortions should be illegal in the second trimester. 0: https://apnews.com/article/only-on-ap-us-supreme-court-abortion-religion-health-2c569aa7934233af8e00bef4520a8fa8 https://apnews.com/article/only-on-ap-us-supreme-court-abort...

manuelabeledo 4y ago
> ... which finds that 54% of people think third trimester abortions should be illegal in all cases - including health of the mother - and 65% think most or all abortions should be illegal in the second trimester. I believe the poll from your source fails to make that distinction. From the article: > But Dr. Daniel Grossman, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of California, San Francisco, who supports abortion rights, cited research showing that Americans viewed second-trimester abortions more empathetically when told about some of the reasons why women seek them. So if asked if abortions should be legal in the third trimester, most people would jump to say "no", without considering the context.
- laverya 4y ago
  And now we're playing the game of polls, where depending on what additional information you provide, people respond differently. The general point of "people will respond differently if you ask about abortion in general vs third (or second) trimester abortions in particular" remains. I'm sure your overall polls would change if you said it meant that a nearly-due baby could be aborted at will, too.
  - manuelabeledo 4y ago
    > The general point of "people will respond differently if you ask about abortion in general vs third (or second) trimester abortions in particular" remains. I don't think I understand. Are you looking for a blanket statement on all abortions? The former poll is not nuanced because it aims at providing demographic data. The latter does not - it de-aggregates sentiment based on trimesters, thus adding the circumstances should be considered.
    - laverya 4y ago
      I'm saying that polls can be twisted however you want, if you're willing to put in the effort. [0] How the question is framed is a large part of the effort, and what the quoted doctor was complaining about. (Specifically, he was complaining that things were not sufficiently twisted in the direction they found favorable) Disaggregating the question based on trimesters is one form of twisting. Asking only a single blanket "are you for or against the right of a woman to choose" is also twisting. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
      - manuelabeledo 4y ago
        I still fail to see your point, as it seems that your proposition is just that polls aren't useful at all. Fact is though, most US citizens aren't against the _idea_ of abortion. We could be nitpicking in there all day long, but there is a majority who is not against it.

manuelabeledo 4y ago

> ... which finds that 54% of people think third trimester abortions should be illegal in all cases - including health of the mother - and 65% think most or all abortions should be illegal in the second trimester. I believe the poll from your source fails to make that distinction. From the article: > But Dr. Daniel Grossman, a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of California, San Francisco, who supports abortion rights, cited research showing that Americans viewed second-trimester abortions more empathetically when told about some of the reasons why women seek them. So if asked if abortions should be legal in the third trimester, most people would jump to say "no", without considering the context.

laverya 4y ago
And now we're playing the game of polls, where depending on what additional information you provide, people respond differently. The general point of "people will respond differently if you ask about abortion in general vs third (or second) trimester abortions in particular" remains. I'm sure your overall polls would change if you said it meant that a nearly-due baby could be aborted at will, too.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  > The general point of "people will respond differently if you ask about abortion in general vs third (or second) trimester abortions in particular" remains. I don't think I understand. Are you looking for a blanket statement on all abortions? The former poll is not nuanced because it aims at providing demographic data. The latter does not - it de-aggregates sentiment based on trimesters, thus adding the circumstances should be considered.
  - laverya 4y ago
    I'm saying that polls can be twisted however you want, if you're willing to put in the effort. [0] How the question is framed is a large part of the effort, and what the quoted doctor was complaining about. (Specifically, he was complaining that things were not sufficiently twisted in the direction they found favorable) Disaggregating the question based on trimesters is one form of twisting. Asking only a single blanket "are you for or against the right of a woman to choose" is also twisting. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA
    - manuelabeledo 4y ago
      I still fail to see your point, as it seems that your proposition is just that polls aren't useful at all. Fact is though, most US citizens aren't against the _idea_ of abortion. We could be nitpicking in there all day long, but there is a majority who is not against it.