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While I am pro-legalised abortion I think this is a separate kind of issue to LGBT rights, racial equality etc. LGBT rights/racial equality is about treating ev

While I am pro-legalised abortion I think this is a separate kind of issue to LGBT rights, racial equality etc. LGBT rights/racial equality is about treating everybody equally. Almost no 'good' people are opposed to those things. There are plenty of good people who literally believe abortion is the murder of a baby. I disagree but I don't agree that it's an unreasonable opinion. Given that, I think companies taking a stance on it would cause a lot more division than when they take a stance on more clear cut social issues.

rootusrootus 4y ago
> Almost no 'good' people are opposed to those things. That is an interesting perspective. You just called something like 100M or more Americans not good people. I am not being hyperbolic. Talk to them. On the surface they are friendly, easygoing, etc, but switch the topic to LGBT rights and listen. The very fact that they believe there is such a thing as "gay rights" tells you a lot. Good luck trying to educate them on how "cannot discriminate based on sexual preference" is not the same thing as giving gay people special rights.
- lesstyzing 4y ago
  >> You just called something like 100M or more Americans not good people Fair enough. So long as they believe they deserve more rights than another group of people, they're not good people. Hopefully they'll change their opinion. I've known plenty of people to change their opinion on this issue over the years and hopefully it'll continue on that trajectory. My point was more than on those issues it's simply one group that thinks another group does not deserve to be treated equally. With abortion it's more two sets of competing 'rights' - the woman and the foetus.
- jbeam 4y ago
  Those people also believe that LGBT people aren't "good people." Why shouldn't we return the favor? What special rights? The right to not get thrown in jail for being gay?

rootusrootus 4y ago

> Almost no 'good' people are opposed to those things. That is an interesting perspective. You just called something like 100M or more Americans not good people. I am not being hyperbolic. Talk to them. On the surface they are friendly, easygoing, etc, but switch the topic to LGBT rights and listen. The very fact that they believe there is such a thing as "gay rights" tells you a lot. Good luck trying to educate them on how "cannot discriminate based on sexual preference" is not the same thing as giving gay people special rights.

lesstyzing 4y ago
>> You just called something like 100M or more Americans not good people Fair enough. So long as they believe they deserve more rights than another group of people, they're not good people. Hopefully they'll change their opinion. I've known plenty of people to change their opinion on this issue over the years and hopefully it'll continue on that trajectory. My point was more than on those issues it's simply one group that thinks another group does not deserve to be treated equally. With abortion it's more two sets of competing 'rights' - the woman and the foetus.
jbeam 4y ago
Those people also believe that LGBT people aren't "good people." Why shouldn't we return the favor? What special rights? The right to not get thrown in jail for being gay?