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"My body my choice" a favorite phrase of conservative anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. How hypocritical that this belief doesn't apply to someone else's right to

"My body my choice" a favorite phrase of conservative anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. How hypocritical that this belief doesn't apply to someone else's right to choose.

npteljes 4y ago
It becomes less hypocritical if you consider that they think that the fetus is another's body. It then becomes an issue of deciding upon someone else's life - which would be murder of course. One thing I think they don't get, or care about, is the personal and societal consequences of having to keep unwanted pregnancies - mainly how much it makes life more difficult for everyone involved. And that with the difficulty, it comes degraded social relationships, unhappiness, substance abuse and crime. Another thing I think they miss is that lots of people will have abortions regardless. Affluent people will have the safe abortions, and the less fortunate will have risky, potentially life-threatening, horrible abortions. Where there's a will, there's a way, so again, crime increases, and the desperate women's health will be in danger, becase the procedure has to go unchecked.
- krnlpnc 4y ago
  > with the difficulty, it comes degraded social relationships, unhappiness, substance abuse and crime. The cynic in me sees this as an intended effect. American companies want cheap labor and maintaining an impoverished working class helps provide it.
  - npteljes 4y ago
    I agree, I think they see it as a welcome side effect.
- ausbah 4y ago
  even if you consider the fetus at any stage to be a living human being entitled to certain rights, it is in another body of which the "person inside" should have no say over because its not their body it would be like if you woke hooked up to another person who was relying on your body to survive. sure they're a person, but you never consented nor have to continue giving consent for them to use you in that manner
  - npteljes 4y ago
    Yes, at this point, it resembles a trolley problem. Balancing what's more important, the new life itself, or the quality of the already established lives.

"My body my choice" a favorite phrase of conservative anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers. How hypocritical that this belief doesn't apply to someone else's right to choose.

npteljes 4y ago

It becomes less hypocritical if you consider that they think that the fetus is another's body. It then becomes an issue of deciding upon someone else's life - which would be murder of course. One thing I think they don't get, or care about, is the personal and societal consequences of having to keep unwanted pregnancies - mainly how much it makes life more difficult for everyone involved. And that with the difficulty, it comes degraded social relationships, unhappiness, substance abuse and crime. Another thing I think they miss is that lots of people will have abortions regardless. Affluent people will have the safe abortions, and the less fortunate will have risky, potentially life-threatening, horrible abortions. Where there's a will, there's a way, so again, crime increases, and the desperate women's health will be in danger, becase the procedure has to go unchecked.

krnlpnc 4y ago
> with the difficulty, it comes degraded social relationships, unhappiness, substance abuse and crime. The cynic in me sees this as an intended effect. American companies want cheap labor and maintaining an impoverished working class helps provide it.
- npteljes 4y ago
  I agree, I think they see it as a welcome side effect.
ausbah 4y ago
even if you consider the fetus at any stage to be a living human being entitled to certain rights, it is in another body of which the "person inside" should have no say over because its not their body it would be like if you woke hooked up to another person who was relying on your body to survive. sure they're a person, but you never consented nor have to continue giving consent for them to use you in that manner
- npteljes 4y ago
  Yes, at this point, it resembles a trolley problem. Balancing what's more important, the new life itself, or the quality of the already established lives.