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> why does the entire thing need to be without a company? Because OP said: > an international group that doesn't trust US based corporations with their person

by 4oh9do 4y ago

> why does the entire thing need to be without a company? Because OP said: > an international group that doesn't trust US based corporations with their personal data That is not realistically possible in today's world, and is an issue way broader than crypto.

whatisweb3 4y ago
The international group of donors does not need to give up any personal data to read a tweet and decide to deposit some of their tokens into a crowdfund contract.
- 4oh9do 4y ago
  > The international group of donors does not need to give up any personal data to read a tweet https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites/privacy https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites/p... > What information does Twitter collect through Twitter for Websites and how is that information used? When you view Twitter content or Twitter products integrated into other websites using Twitter for Websites, Twitter may receive information including the web page you visited, your IP address, browser type, operating system, and cookie information. This information helps us to improve our products and services, including personalized suggestions and personalized ads.
  - whatisweb3 4y ago
    So? Most of this is negligible, and can be shielded if the donor cares about this level of privacy - using a VPN, disabling cookies, spoofing your browser client. The OP is probably talking about personal data such as mass collection of users photo ID, passport, email address, home address, full legal name and gender, telephone number, date of birth. In a standard non-blockchain crowdfund, these are the sort of things each donor would need to first share with PayPal Holdings Inc. - or a similar company - in order to have their donation fulfilled.
    - 4oh9do 4y ago
      So? Most of this is negligible, and can be shielded if the donor cares about this level of privacy.
      - whatisweb3 4y ago
        Passport fraud is slightly more illegal than turning off your browser cookies.
        4oh9do 4y ago
        Don't shift the goalposts. The conversation is not about legality or illegality of certain actions, but about how this fictional "international organization" does not want any US company to have their personal data. The point is that in such an unrealistic hypothetical, crypto is a very small concern.
        whatisweb3 4y ago
        lol @ goalposts. the conversation has gone from “blockchains have no application” to “ok, blockchains have an application, but it probably only concerns a few.” there are many users who would be happy to have systems of value transfer that don’t require routing all value and personal data through a central US company.

by 4oh9do 4y ago

whatisweb3 4y ago

The international group of donors does not need to give up any personal data to read a tweet and decide to deposit some of their tokens into a crowdfund contract.

4oh9do 4y ago
> The international group of donors does not need to give up any personal data to read a tweet https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites/privacy https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-for-websites/p... > What information does Twitter collect through Twitter for Websites and how is that information used? When you view Twitter content or Twitter products integrated into other websites using Twitter for Websites, Twitter may receive information including the web page you visited, your IP address, browser type, operating system, and cookie information. This information helps us to improve our products and services, including personalized suggestions and personalized ads.
- whatisweb3 4y ago
  So? Most of this is negligible, and can be shielded if the donor cares about this level of privacy - using a VPN, disabling cookies, spoofing your browser client. The OP is probably talking about personal data such as mass collection of users photo ID, passport, email address, home address, full legal name and gender, telephone number, date of birth. In a standard non-blockchain crowdfund, these are the sort of things each donor would need to first share with PayPal Holdings Inc. - or a similar company - in order to have their donation fulfilled.
  - 4oh9do 4y ago
    So? Most of this is negligible, and can be shielded if the donor cares about this level of privacy.
    - whatisweb3 4y ago
      Passport fraud is slightly more illegal than turning off your browser cookies.
      - 4oh9do 4y ago
        Don't shift the goalposts. The conversation is not about legality or illegality of certain actions, but about how this fictional "international organization" does not want any US company to have their personal data. The point is that in such an unrealistic hypothetical, crypto is a very small concern.
        whatisweb3 4y ago
        lol @ goalposts. the conversation has gone from “blockchains have no application” to “ok, blockchains have an application, but it probably only concerns a few.” there are many users who would be happy to have systems of value transfer that don’t require routing all value and personal data through a central US company.