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I strongly believe that we are just meat machines, and you could re-construct your exact consciousness in a machine and, with proper technology, have no idea wh
by sam0x17 4y ago
I strongly believe that we are just meat machines, and you could re-construct your exact consciousness in a machine and, with proper technology, have no idea whether you are real or in a simulation, for example. Way back when I was an undergrad I double majored in CS and philosophy and focused on turing computability and phenomenology, and yeah, I don't see anything about biological circuits, processes, and machinery that gives them capabilities we don't have in conventional electronics. Even if there is some spooky quantum stuff going on in biological systems, we're starting to do that anyway, so either way it's only a matter of time. Why can't a sufficiently complex recurrent neural network have phenomenal states? No one has been able to convincingly answer that question for me so the door has stayed open in my heart all this time that humans are computable, and I find that fact relaxing. Networks have phenomenal states. Either they do, or we don't. Why this isn't obvious to others has always baffled me.
I find it very likely that networks that have a "what it feels like to be the network" have already been created, and that even relatively simple recurrent models have something akin to this, increasing with the complexity and size of the network. What is pain but an error signal?
Put another way, why are we so arrogant that we assume our capabilities transcend that of a universal turing machine? I for one can barely do linear algebra :D
I tend to gravitate towards the occam's razer, boring answer, and with consciousness, the boring answer has always been "no, there is no quantum soul organ, you literally just need more wiring".