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Abortion has existed for pretty much all of human history, too.

by myvoiceismypass 4y ago

HideousKojima 4y ago
And laws against abortion have existed for most of human history as well. Most haven't been outright bans on it, but there have been plenty of rules about who can get them and how all the way back to Hammurabi.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  > Most haven't been outright bans on it, but there have been plenty of rules about who can get them and how all the way back to Hammurabi. This sounds like it needs a source. As far as I understand, anti-abortion laws started getting traction in the 1800s. Before that, these were scattered and mostly religious inspired. Also, Hammurabi doesn't make any references to voluntary abortions.
  - rufus_foreman 4y ago
    >> As far as I understand, anti-abortion laws started getting traction in the 1800s. Before that, these were scattered and mostly religious inspired. The court found otherwise, you can read the majority's evidence in their opinion at https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf starting on page 17: "The “eminent common-law authorities (Blackstone, Coke, Hale, and the like),” Kahler v. Kansas, 589 U. S. ___, ___ (2020) (slip op., at 7), all describe abortion after quickening as criminal. Henry de Bracton’s 13th-century treatise explained that if a person has “struck a pregnant woman, or has given her poison, whereby he has caused abortion, if the foetus be already formed and animated, and particularly if it be animated, he commits homicide.” 2 DeLegibus et Consuetudinibus Angliae 279 (T. Twiss ed. 1879); see also 1 Fleta, c. 23, reprinted in 72 Selden Soc. 60–61 (H. Richardson & G. Sayles eds. 1955) (13th-century treatise)." They go on for a few pages going over common law before discussing the historical record in the US.
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Abortion has existed for pretty much all of human history, too.

by myvoiceismypass 4y ago

Abortion has existed for pretty much all of human history, too.

HideousKojima 4y ago
And laws against abortion have existed for most of human history as well. Most haven't been outright bans on it, but there have been plenty of rules about who can get them and how all the way back to Hammurabi.
- manuelabeledo 4y ago
  > Most haven't been outright bans on it, but there have been plenty of rules about who can get them and how all the way back to Hammurabi. This sounds like it needs a source. As far as I understand, anti-abortion laws started getting traction in the 1800s. Before that, these were scattered and mostly religious inspired. Also, Hammurabi doesn't make any references to voluntary abortions.
  - rufus_foreman 4y ago
    >> As far as I understand, anti-abortion laws started getting traction in the 1800s. Before that, these were scattered and mostly religious inspired. The court found otherwise, you can read the majority's evidence in their opinion at https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf starting on page 17: "The “eminent common-law authorities (Blackstone, Coke, Hale, and the like),” Kahler v. Kansas, 589 U. S. ___, ___ (2020) (slip op., at 7), all describe abortion after quickening as criminal. Henry de Bracton’s 13th-century treatise explained that if a person has “struck a pregnant woman, or has given her poison, whereby he has caused abortion, if the foetus be already formed and animated, and particularly if it be animated, he commits homicide.” 2 DeLegibus et Consuetudinibus Angliae 279 (T. Twiss ed. 1879); see also 1 Fleta, c. 23, reprinted in 72 Selden Soc. 60–61 (H. Richardson & G. Sayles eds. 1955) (13th-century treatise)." They go on for a few pages going over common law before discussing the historical record in the US.
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