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> So the issue is really what the hell is wrong with the states where the people elected feel empowered to take rights away from half their populace. As I just

> So the issue is really what the hell is wrong with the states where the people elected feel empowered to take rights away from half their populace. As I just said in my chosen Mastodon instance: “Ever since today’s Supreme Court decision was leaked, some have said that this oddly might hurt the Republicans in future elections — i.e., they’ll no longer have Roe v. Wade to use against the Democrats. However, this ignores what made today possible: the power of the Christian Right, particularly those whose votes won’t be erased by some currently running for office on promising to make it harder for anti-Rightists to vote (or have their votes count).” Those of you who don’t have a lot of exposure to that culture, and the way it has completely taken over a good chunk of American politics — not to mention one of the two major U.S. political parties — in the last forty-plus years, will find today a shock. And wait ’til you see what else they have in mind.

PathOfEclipse 4y ago
Won't pro-lifers still vote for Republicans in order, to, you know, legislate pro-life laws? All this decision does is place the issue back in the hands of the legislative branch, where it should always have been. Now, it's up to you to vote for what you want. Of the following two forces, the Christian right and the atheist Marxist left, I promise you the latter is far more shocking, dangerous, and self-destructive to America.
- cr__ 4y ago
  I “promise” it’s the opposite so I guess everything cancels out.
- generj 4y ago
  Remind me which side recently had a coup?
  - PathOfEclipse 4y ago
    Remind me which side calls for violent overthrow of existing institutions as a foundational belief? Hint: it's not the Christian right. Remind me which side is threatening supreme court justices right now? That looks an awful lot like insurrection: https://news.yahoo.com/protesters-descend-amy-coney-barrett-015809191.html https://news.yahoo.com/protesters-descend-amy-coney-barrett-... Remind me which side is planning to engage in acts of domestic terrorism this very weekend? https://aleteia.org/2022/06/24/department-of-homeland-security-warns-of-night-of-rage-after-roe/ https://aleteia.org/2022/06/24/department-of-homeland-securi... And if you say something like, "these people don't represent us," You can probably guess I'll respond: the small number of men who rioted at the capitol without any actual realistic plan to perform a coup don't represent us either. Leftist activists, unfortunately, are much smarter about what it takes to really overthrow a government, and they've been in it for the long haul for almost a century now.
    - generj 4y ago
      Oh I’m sorry did the protestors at Amy Barret’s house break in and smear feces on the walls? No, they just peacefully assembled? Yeah that isn’t an insurrection by any means. People loudly protest all the time, that isn’t the same thing as “domestic terrorism” even if some property gets damaged or relatively few people get hurt. By that definition the civil rights movement would have been domestic terrorism. You know what is domestic terrorism? Firebombing abortion clinics and murdering doctors like some “Christian” right members have done. Frankly the people who stormed the Capital are a sideshow. The real coup was directed from the highest seats of government to prevent the peaceful transition of power, and the mob was merely a minor part of the plan. The real action was in getting Pence out and selecting alternate electors illegally sent.
      - PathOfEclipse 4y ago
        Are you actually serious? The protestors were breaking the law: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/protesting-at-justices-homes-is-illegal-what-is-biden-doing-about-it/ https://www.aei.org/op-eds/protesting-at-justices-homes-is-i... "it is unlawful to protest near a “residence occupied or used by [a] judge, juror, witness, or court officer” with the intent of influencing “the discharge of his duty,”" What they were doing clearly amounts to intimidating the justices, including by putting them in harm's way by announcing their home addresses on the Internet. https://www.britannica.com/topic/insurrection-politics https://www.britannica.com/topic/insurrection-politics "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." What they are doing is illegally engaging in rebellion against authority. It is insurrection. I also can't believe you are calling this "protesting loudly": "The DHS agent reportedly told the diocese that “large groups with cells nationwide have already been discovered ‘casing’ parishes, including here in California.”" What they are planning to do, is, in fact domestic terrorism. Your condemnation of the right while supporting the terrorism of the left is very revealing. At least people on the right are willing to condemn both. We at least have principles.
mywittyname 4y ago
It's pretty clear that the country is in for near-total Republican control of the federal government for a long time now, maybe indefinitely.
mistrial9 4y ago
some papers claim that 24% of American voters are Catholics-or-similar at this time

PathOfEclipse 4y ago

Won't pro-lifers still vote for Republicans in order, to, you know, legislate pro-life laws? All this decision does is place the issue back in the hands of the legislative branch, where it should always have been. Now, it's up to you to vote for what you want. Of the following two forces, the Christian right and the atheist Marxist left, I promise you the latter is far more shocking, dangerous, and self-destructive to America.

cr__ 4y ago
I “promise” it’s the opposite so I guess everything cancels out.
generj 4y ago
Remind me which side recently had a coup?
- PathOfEclipse 4y ago
  Remind me which side calls for violent overthrow of existing institutions as a foundational belief? Hint: it's not the Christian right. Remind me which side is threatening supreme court justices right now? That looks an awful lot like insurrection: https://news.yahoo.com/protesters-descend-amy-coney-barrett-015809191.html https://news.yahoo.com/protesters-descend-amy-coney-barrett-... Remind me which side is planning to engage in acts of domestic terrorism this very weekend? https://aleteia.org/2022/06/24/department-of-homeland-security-warns-of-night-of-rage-after-roe/ https://aleteia.org/2022/06/24/department-of-homeland-securi... And if you say something like, "these people don't represent us," You can probably guess I'll respond: the small number of men who rioted at the capitol without any actual realistic plan to perform a coup don't represent us either. Leftist activists, unfortunately, are much smarter about what it takes to really overthrow a government, and they've been in it for the long haul for almost a century now.
  - generj 4y ago
    Oh I’m sorry did the protestors at Amy Barret’s house break in and smear feces on the walls? No, they just peacefully assembled? Yeah that isn’t an insurrection by any means. People loudly protest all the time, that isn’t the same thing as “domestic terrorism” even if some property gets damaged or relatively few people get hurt. By that definition the civil rights movement would have been domestic terrorism. You know what is domestic terrorism? Firebombing abortion clinics and murdering doctors like some “Christian” right members have done. Frankly the people who stormed the Capital are a sideshow. The real coup was directed from the highest seats of government to prevent the peaceful transition of power, and the mob was merely a minor part of the plan. The real action was in getting Pence out and selecting alternate electors illegally sent.
    - PathOfEclipse 4y ago
      Are you actually serious? The protestors were breaking the law: https://www.aei.org/op-eds/protesting-at-justices-homes-is-illegal-what-is-biden-doing-about-it/ https://www.aei.org/op-eds/protesting-at-justices-homes-is-i... "it is unlawful to protest near a “residence occupied or used by [a] judge, juror, witness, or court officer” with the intent of influencing “the discharge of his duty,”" What they were doing clearly amounts to intimidating the justices, including by putting them in harm's way by announcing their home addresses on the Internet. https://www.britannica.com/topic/insurrection-politics https://www.britannica.com/topic/insurrection-politics "Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States." What they are doing is illegally engaging in rebellion against authority. It is insurrection. I also can't believe you are calling this "protesting loudly": "The DHS agent reportedly told the diocese that “large groups with cells nationwide have already been discovered ‘casing’ parishes, including here in California.”" What they are planning to do, is, in fact domestic terrorism. Your condemnation of the right while supporting the terrorism of the left is very revealing. At least people on the right are willing to condemn both. We at least have principles.

mywittyname 4y ago

It's pretty clear that the country is in for near-total Republican control of the federal government for a long time now, maybe indefinitely.

mistrial9 4y ago

some papers claim that 24% of American voters are Catholics-or-similar at this time