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We use Microsoft Azure Dev Ops Boards. It's okay for the engineers but pretty crap outside of that at a project/business level. So much so that we revert back t

We use Microsoft Azure Dev Ops Boards. It's okay for the engineers but pretty crap outside of that at a project/business level. So much so that we revert back to Trello almost as a layer above dev ops but that duplicates the information we store about sprints/cards etc. Not ideal Would love to hear from anybody who has found a way to make Microsoft dev ops sing at a project management level!

lbriner 4y ago
Our Product Team use Devops, particular the "Features" part which makes it easier to organise at a high level but also you can easily link to other PBIs created to implement those features. My experience is really related to people's willingness to try things out. Most objections I have had to using these tools relate to technophobes or simply people who don't like it and won't use it!
ldjb 4y ago
We also use Azure DevOps. Where I work, developers, testers, designers, product owners, product managers and so on all use it without too many issues. It helps that you can create a hierarchy, with epics and features being more high-level, and user stories and tasks being more low-level. This allows people in different roles to work at a level of abstraction that works for them. That said, we also maintain high-level roadmaps in ProductPlan, which we've found to be more suitable for non-tech stakeholders, since it lets you quite easily see where projects sit on a timeline and the dependencies involved.
- cpascal 4y ago
  We do a similar thing. Engineering tracking is done through AZDO, but roadmap management is done in another tool with some sort of integration between the two.
  - simonswords82 4y ago
    Would love to hear more about this - how do you integrate the two?
AndrewVos 4y ago
This is a horrible tool, and it's highly likely that everyone actually hates it but just doesn't want to say anything.
- simonswords82 4y ago
  Glad to hear it's not just some members of team who struggle with it! What do you prefer?
  - AndrewVos 4y ago
    I think for me Trello is the only tool that makes it hard for managers to turn into a hellscape.

lbriner 4y ago

Our Product Team use Devops, particular the "Features" part which makes it easier to organise at a high level but also you can easily link to other PBIs created to implement those features. My experience is really related to people's willingness to try things out. Most objections I have had to using these tools relate to technophobes or simply people who don't like it and won't use it!

ldjb 4y ago

We also use Azure DevOps. Where I work, developers, testers, designers, product owners, product managers and so on all use it without too many issues. It helps that you can create a hierarchy, with epics and features being more high-level, and user stories and tasks being more low-level. This allows people in different roles to work at a level of abstraction that works for them. That said, we also maintain high-level roadmaps in ProductPlan, which we've found to be more suitable for non-tech stakeholders, since it lets you quite easily see where projects sit on a timeline and the dependencies involved.

cpascal 4y ago
We do a similar thing. Engineering tracking is done through AZDO, but roadmap management is done in another tool with some sort of integration between the two.
- simonswords82 4y ago
  Would love to hear more about this - how do you integrate the two?

AndrewVos 4y ago

This is a horrible tool, and it's highly likely that everyone actually hates it but just doesn't want to say anything.

simonswords82 4y ago
Glad to hear it's not just some members of team who struggle with it! What do you prefer?
- AndrewVos 4y ago
  I think for me Trello is the only tool that makes it hard for managers to turn into a hellscape.