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Please don’t do the extreme outrage machine. Please listen. Those consensual agreements you speak of specifically include the use of research to support normal
by dr_dshiv 4y ago
Please don’t do the extreme outrage machine. Please listen.
Those consensual agreements you speak of specifically include the use of research to support normal educational practices. That’s why conducting research on normal educational practices is one of the few exceptions to the requirements for informed consent in research. That’s because it was understood that there is an ethical trade off —gathering informed consent from kids in education settings is so difficult that they knew requiring consent would prevent the research from occurring. That’s what I’m saying —rather than “black and white” thinking that collecting data from kids is evil, consider the real societal losses from banning research to improve educational practices— including what is now normal online educational practices. This needs nuance.
For more information:
https://research.virginia.edu/irb-sbs/normal-educational-practice https://research.virginia.edu/irb-sbs/normal-educational-pra...
- noasaservice 4y agoSo what you're saying is that an IRB is just 'too onerous' and that getting informed consent (from the children or their guardians) is just too hard? And then you have the audacity to tell us to "don’t do the extreme outrage machine"? Just wow.
- workingon 4y agoYeah with no concerns about the limitations or monetization of the data that the edtech companies are collecting. Data on the habits of children has to be some of the most valuable data in the data-for-sale corporate/black markets.
- dr_dshiv 4y agoYou should have read the link or listened to what I wrote. Yes. You are contributing to the outrage machine.
- dr_dshiv 4y agoNot that IRB is too onerous. We still get IRB approval. But approval can come with an exemption from informed consent when it involves research on normal educational practices.