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No, its about the fact that several billion people will come here if the door is completely open.

by Newgy 15y ago

potatolicious 15y ago
Except this guy (and many, many, many others) is not one of the "several billion". He is highly educated, and highly intelligent. This sets him far apart from the majority of the world's population, which is predominantly impoverished, uneducated, and illiterate. Surely he is not just another one of the uneducated, unwashed masses that America fears so much from its immigrants? I simply don't understand why productive, educated, intelligent people are ever turned away. These people will find opportunities elsewhere - and make some other country more powerful in exchange. There was time when you would give your kidney to be in the USA - what Americans need to wake up and realize that that day has passed. The US is still a very valuable place to be, particularly for a tech entrepreneur, but the advance in the rest of the world over the past two decades has been even more dramatic. The US is unquestionably losing its edge, and IMO there is more justification than ever for a (finally) sane immigration policy.
dereg 15y ago
Not at all. Immigration laws are not the primary inhibitor of migration, (lack of) money is the greatest barrier. The fact that you say your un-learned opinion is a "fact", proves burgerbrain's point that immigration laws are more xenaphobia than anything.
Symmetry 15y ago
"Several" billion? That's half the world's population.
- anamax 15y ago
  > "Several" billion? That's half the world's population. Yes, it is. Are you suggesting that more than half of the world's population wouldn't move to the US if doing so was a reasonable option for them? Seriously - for most people, being poor in the US would be a huge step up. (As someone put it, almost every "Occupy" protestor is in the 1% on a world-wide basis.) And they're pretty sure that they would do better than the worst.

No, its about the fact that several billion people will come here if the door is completely open.

by Newgy 15y ago

No, its about the fact that several billion people will come here if the door is completely open.

Except this guy (and many, many, many others) is not one of the "several billion". He is highly educated, and highly intelligent. This sets him far apart from the majority of the world's population, which is predominantly impoverished, uneducated, and illiterate. Surely he is not just another one of the uneducated, unwashed masses that America fears so much from its immigrants? I simply don't understand why productive, educated, intelligent people are ever turned away. These people will find opportunities elsewhere - and make some other country more powerful in exchange. There was time when you would give your kidney to be in the USA - what Americans need to wake up and realize that that day has passed. The US is still a very valuable place to be, particularly for a tech entrepreneur, but the advance in the rest of the world over the past two decades has been even more dramatic. The US is unquestionably losing its edge, and IMO there is more justification than ever for a (finally) sane immigration policy.

dereg 15y ago

Not at all. Immigration laws are not the primary inhibitor of migration, (lack of) money is the greatest barrier. The fact that you say your un-learned opinion is a "fact", proves burgerbrain's point that immigration laws are more xenaphobia than anything.

Symmetry 15y ago

"Several" billion? That's half the world's population.

anamax 15y ago
> "Several" billion? That's half the world's population. Yes, it is. Are you suggesting that more than half of the world's population wouldn't move to the US if doing so was a reasonable option for them? Seriously - for most people, being poor in the US would be a huge step up. (As someone put it, almost every "Occupy" protestor is in the 1% on a world-wide basis.) And they're pretty sure that they would do better than the worst.