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I can’t help but think that the article is highly manipulative. It’s hard to argue with the author on the logical points, but they even to go out of the way to

by ribit 4y ago

I can’t help but think that the article is highly manipulative. It’s hard to argue with the author on the logical points, but they even to go out of the way to avoid addressing the elephant in the room: the fact that Google controls around 90% of the browser technology today. And it’s hardly the “Chrome is a better product” that led us to this situation but rather the aggressive marketing and Googles status as web leader. Don’t get me wrong, Apple shouldn’t dictate which browser the customers are allowed to use, but personally I am more concerned about web standards being controlled by a single company. Regulators should probably have a look there first. Can’t have meaningful choice in a monopoly.

quitit 4y ago
I find it hard to believe that Apple with it’s shrinking fractional share is legitimately holding back a web utopia. Android and Chrome are everywhere, if it could happen it just would. It has the market already and that share is growing. The attacks on Apple locking down the browser engine seem obvious: it’s the next largest chunk of users which Chromium can absorb and a way of taking Apple’s platform out from their control. (i.e It’s about money, not idealism or purity or some saccharin tech empyrean). The result would be obvious, less browser engines and more control to Google - I think few would argue that less browser engines are a good thing since the whole point of this argument is supposedly the opposite. As for apple’s security rationale: We frequently see serious security threats across a range of engines, especially Chromium, the argument of limiting that vector on iOS platforms is solid with history on its side. Placing a high risk component in the hands of a different company is beyond foolish, because in comparison to a desktop computer, the smartphone is a figurative treasure chest. “- But what about user choice?” Users aren’t demanding this, and they really do have a choice since picking an iPhone means wading through a sea of Android options at every available price point and screen size. Which brings me to an ignored point: One really needs to acknowledge that users aren’t dummies and their choice of iPhones isn’t blind chance. The apple ecosystem suits a type of user lifestyle with its low-effort approach to technology. What actually needs to happen is we stop asking the foxes what the chickens want.

by ribit 4y ago

quitit 4y ago

I find it hard to believe that Apple with it’s shrinking fractional share is legitimately holding back a web utopia. Android and Chrome are everywhere, if it could happen it just would. It has the market already and that share is growing. The attacks on Apple locking down the browser engine seem obvious: it’s the next largest chunk of users which Chromium can absorb and a way of taking Apple’s platform out from their control. (i.e It’s about money, not idealism or purity or some saccharin tech empyrean). The result would be obvious, less browser engines and more control to Google - I think few would argue that less browser engines are a good thing since the whole point of this argument is supposedly the opposite. As for apple’s security rationale: We frequently see serious security threats across a range of engines, especially Chromium, the argument of limiting that vector on iOS platforms is solid with history on its side. Placing a high risk component in the hands of a different company is beyond foolish, because in comparison to a desktop computer, the smartphone is a figurative treasure chest. “- But what about user choice?” Users aren’t demanding this, and they really do have a choice since picking an iPhone means wading through a sea of Android options at every available price point and screen size. Which brings me to an ignored point: One really needs to acknowledge that users aren’t dummies and their choice of iPhones isn’t blind chance. The apple ecosystem suits a type of user lifestyle with its low-effort approach to technology. What actually needs to happen is we stop asking the foxes what the chickens want.