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Which prevents powerful privacy-enhancing open-source extensions like uBlock Origin, LibRedirect and Redirector from existing on iOS.

by ajvs 4y ago

BoorishBears 4y ago
And so you get back to the original point above... > So you may criticize Apple for their position but I would rather have a 90% effective ad-blocker and a guarantee that my privacy is intact. With so much data reselling going on it's simply not worth the risk.
iasay 4y ago
It also prevents the 90% case of nasty page replacement plugins and data theft extensions which are extremely common on other platforms.
- cowtools 4y ago
  Luckily, 100% of those malware plugins can already be avoided by voluntarily choosing to not install them. This isn't a decision for apple or any other manufacturer to make. If you need an authority figure to babysit you while you use a computer then you shouldn't be using a computer in the first place, you should be in a nursing home.
  - iasay 4y ago
    This is selection bias. Clearly you’ve never met an average computer user then. Malicious web pages force extensions on you which users do install.
    - ajvs 4y ago
      uBlock Origin is exactly the type of extension which blocks these malicious webpages.
      - iasay 4y ago
        Not really https://portswigger.net/research/ublock-i-exfiltrate-exploiting-ad-blockers-with-css https://portswigger.net/research/ublock-i-exfiltrate-exploit...
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  it is a weird country that where people are scared that their data is at the mercy of an open source completely auditable browser extension, that adults have the choice to install or not install upon inspection, and oppose to it, but when it's about real threats that actually kill people (including kids) nothing gets done in the name of "freedom of choice" and against "baby sitting by the government"...
  - iasay 4y ago
    Not scared of those extensions. The malicious web sites that force you to install malicious extensions are the problem. The average user isn’t immune to those problems. I’ve cleaned out enough extension infested chrome browsers in my time…
    - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
      > The malicious web sites that force you to install malicious extensions are the problem. while the malicious Company that profits from the 30% cut on in game items sold to kids (and non kids) on their platform, that is ok! > The average user isn’t immune to those problems. The average user is not immune to bullets too, we don't force people to wear vests though (even though in USA that should probably be a requirement, given how little they are able to do to stop the shootings) > I’ve cleaned out enough extension infested chrome browsers in my time… that's funny, because in 25 years of web browsing and fixing other less tech savvy people's mess, what really changed everything was the invention of ad blockers, like uBlock origin. It immediately made the web a better place, safer, lighter and immensely more enjoyable. Those "web sites that force you to install malicious extensions" disappeared in an instant and voila, problem solved. The reward is worth the (negligible) risk.
      - Jcowell 4y ago
        > The average user is not immune to bullets too, we don't force people to wear vests though To be fair most countries deal with this via very strong national gun laws
threeseed 4y ago
Those extensions can exist on iOS perfectly fine. They just need to agree to work without needing me to supply them the content of every web page I visit and every URL I click. Apologies for putting my privacy first.
- ajvs 4y ago
  You do realise uBlock Origin doesn't send the URLs you visit to anyone and it's open source so you can even check this yourself?

Which prevents powerful privacy-enhancing open-source extensions like uBlock Origin, LibRedirect and Redirector from existing on iOS.

by ajvs 4y ago

Which prevents powerful privacy-enhancing open-source extensions like uBlock Origin, LibRedirect and Redirector from existing on iOS.

BoorishBears 4y ago

And so you get back to the original point above... > So you may criticize Apple for their position but I would rather have a 90% effective ad-blocker and a guarantee that my privacy is intact. With so much data reselling going on it's simply not worth the risk.

iasay 4y ago

It also prevents the 90% case of nasty page replacement plugins and data theft extensions which are extremely common on other platforms.

cowtools 4y ago
Luckily, 100% of those malware plugins can already be avoided by voluntarily choosing to not install them. This isn't a decision for apple or any other manufacturer to make. If you need an authority figure to babysit you while you use a computer then you shouldn't be using a computer in the first place, you should be in a nursing home.
- iasay 4y ago
  This is selection bias. Clearly you’ve never met an average computer user then. Malicious web pages force extensions on you which users do install.
  - ajvs 4y ago
    uBlock Origin is exactly the type of extension which blocks these malicious webpages.
    - iasay 4y ago
      Not really https://portswigger.net/research/ublock-i-exfiltrate-exploiting-ad-blockers-with-css https://portswigger.net/research/ublock-i-exfiltrate-exploit...
peoplefromibiza 4y ago
it is a weird country that where people are scared that their data is at the mercy of an open source completely auditable browser extension, that adults have the choice to install or not install upon inspection, and oppose to it, but when it's about real threats that actually kill people (including kids) nothing gets done in the name of "freedom of choice" and against "baby sitting by the government"...
- iasay 4y ago
  Not scared of those extensions. The malicious web sites that force you to install malicious extensions are the problem. The average user isn’t immune to those problems. I’ve cleaned out enough extension infested chrome browsers in my time…
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    > The malicious web sites that force you to install malicious extensions are the problem. while the malicious Company that profits from the 30% cut on in game items sold to kids (and non kids) on their platform, that is ok! > The average user isn’t immune to those problems. The average user is not immune to bullets too, we don't force people to wear vests though (even though in USA that should probably be a requirement, given how little they are able to do to stop the shootings) > I’ve cleaned out enough extension infested chrome browsers in my time… that's funny, because in 25 years of web browsing and fixing other less tech savvy people's mess, what really changed everything was the invention of ad blockers, like uBlock origin. It immediately made the web a better place, safer, lighter and immensely more enjoyable. Those "web sites that force you to install malicious extensions" disappeared in an instant and voila, problem solved. The reward is worth the (negligible) risk.
    - Jcowell 4y ago
      > The average user is not immune to bullets too, we don't force people to wear vests though To be fair most countries deal with this via very strong national gun laws

threeseed 4y ago

Those extensions can exist on iOS perfectly fine. They just need to agree to work without needing me to supply them the content of every web page I visit and every URL I click. Apologies for putting my privacy first.

ajvs 4y ago
You do realise uBlock Origin doesn't send the URLs you visit to anyone and it's open source so you can even check this yourself?