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Actually, don't think development of TV shows is their problem I think (just like every other streaming service) their recommendation system is pretty much usel

Actually, don't think development of TV shows is their problem I think (just like every other streaming service) their recommendation system is pretty much useless. They have a lot of great content but you kind of have go out of your way to discover it yourself. If they'd fire the people that invented Auto playing shows/movies and hired some curators to classify their content in the vein of Pandora's "Music Genome Project" they'd easily have the best service.

fullshark 4y ago
Their recommendation system is useless because they don’t have a lot of great content actually imo. Their home page design is built around hiding this fact from the user and not letting them see how thin their corpus is. They need to merge with a traditional media company I think, paramount or Warner discovery would make sense.
- ghaff 4y ago
  Because Paramount+ has so much great content? Yes, video streaming is pretty fragmented. But I'm willing to bet that a lot of people who complain about that also complained about the $100/month cable bundle. I probably pay half that now for more choice. (I only lose out on live TV but I could have that if I were willing to pay for it.)
  - fullshark 4y ago
    Mostly because market consolidation is inevitable and has already started. It's going to be Disney and then everyone else, and merging with a traditional content creator will get them IP (for example star trek, south park, discovery shows, looney toons whatever) and content creation experts and partnerships. Netflix's last few years were a bet on being able to generate IP or business intelligence technologies to enable them to ensure people never cancel and always are satisfied and I think they are going to learn that content is king, and their off-brand versions of cable TV shows aren't sticky enough to keep people subscribed.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      I don't disagree with respect to consolidation. And we're in violent agreement that content is king which almost certainly means some combination of new "must see" content and a back catalog. Paramount is actually interesting because to my eye, unless you're a Star Trek fanatic, they don't have a super-compelling catalog that would lead me to subscribe. But Paramount+Netflix would be an interesting combination. No idea if the economics would work. I suspect Netflix subscription prices are about as high as they can go even if you add in Paramount's library.
- rg111 4y ago
  > because they don’t have a lot of great content actually imo. At the rate I watch new TV/Web series, there are enough in Netflix right now to last me 2-3 years. The recsys is shit. After I search and manually add shows to my watchlist, I see them as recced and with 98% match. I never see shows I would really like recced to me by the recsys. I always find shows by word-of-mouth and by searching You.com (prev Google). I just search what I want. I see many lists appear on the results. I take a mental note of series appearing in multiple lists and synopsis liked by me. This is how I discovered Broadchurch, Bosch, and Mozart in the Jungle. I used to browse Reddit a lot (had to cut it due to lack of time) and watched shows and movies that came up a lot during free discussion or viral askreddits or some weekly threads. This is how I discovered Clue (1982), Superbad, etc.
moneycantbuy 4y ago
Their recommendations suck because they don’t have any good content to recommend.

fullshark 4y ago

Their recommendation system is useless because they don’t have a lot of great content actually imo. Their home page design is built around hiding this fact from the user and not letting them see how thin their corpus is. They need to merge with a traditional media company I think, paramount or Warner discovery would make sense.

ghaff 4y ago
Because Paramount+ has so much great content? Yes, video streaming is pretty fragmented. But I'm willing to bet that a lot of people who complain about that also complained about the $100/month cable bundle. I probably pay half that now for more choice. (I only lose out on live TV but I could have that if I were willing to pay for it.)
- fullshark 4y ago
  Mostly because market consolidation is inevitable and has already started. It's going to be Disney and then everyone else, and merging with a traditional content creator will get them IP (for example star trek, south park, discovery shows, looney toons whatever) and content creation experts and partnerships. Netflix's last few years were a bet on being able to generate IP or business intelligence technologies to enable them to ensure people never cancel and always are satisfied and I think they are going to learn that content is king, and their off-brand versions of cable TV shows aren't sticky enough to keep people subscribed.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    I don't disagree with respect to consolidation. And we're in violent agreement that content is king which almost certainly means some combination of new "must see" content and a back catalog. Paramount is actually interesting because to my eye, unless you're a Star Trek fanatic, they don't have a super-compelling catalog that would lead me to subscribe. But Paramount+Netflix would be an interesting combination. No idea if the economics would work. I suspect Netflix subscription prices are about as high as they can go even if you add in Paramount's library.
rg111 4y ago
> because they don’t have a lot of great content actually imo. At the rate I watch new TV/Web series, there are enough in Netflix right now to last me 2-3 years. The recsys is shit. After I search and manually add shows to my watchlist, I see them as recced and with 98% match. I never see shows I would really like recced to me by the recsys. I always find shows by word-of-mouth and by searching You.com (prev Google). I just search what I want. I see many lists appear on the results. I take a mental note of series appearing in multiple lists and synopsis liked by me. This is how I discovered Broadchurch, Bosch, and Mozart in the Jungle. I used to browse Reddit a lot (had to cut it due to lack of time) and watched shows and movies that came up a lot during free discussion or viral askreddits or some weekly threads. This is how I discovered Clue (1982), Superbad, etc.

moneycantbuy 4y ago

Their recommendations suck because they don’t have any good content to recommend.