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Show HN: Brave Goggle that upranks news sources that are politically centrist

9 points by upwardbound 4y ago

upwardbound 4y ago
See also this discussion yesterday about the Brave Goggles feature in general, and information about how you can make them: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31837986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31837986
upwardbound 4y ago
If you don't have the Brave browser, you can still try this Goggle if you use the test page here: https://search.brave.com/goggles?goggles_id=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fpreambleai%2Fbrave-goggles%2Fmain%2Fcentrist-news https://search.brave.com/goggles?goggles_id=https%3A%2F%2Fra...
- addcninblue 4y ago
  Also, you can add a Goggle-enabled Brave as a search engine in Chrome by using the following url: https://search.brave.com/goggles?q=%s+&source=web&goggles_id=https%253A%252F%252Fraw.githubusercontent.com%252Fpreambleai%252Fbrave-goggles%252Fmain%252Fcentrist-news&nav=site (The %s stands in for the search, and the goggles_id specifies the link above.)
r721 4y ago
I have seen pretty wild conspiracy theories on consortiumnews.com/thelastamericanvagabond.com/globalresearch.ca/informationclearinghouse.info, so personally I'm not sure you selected good sources to boost. UPD globalresearch.ca was even included in "Pillars of Russia's Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem" report: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-Russia%E2%80%99s-Disinformation-and-Propaganda-Ecosystem_08-04-20.pdf https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-...
- upwardbound 4y ago
  Thank you very much for the heads-up. I updated the Goggle to remove those 4 sites from the boost list. Thank you so much for the feedback, very very much appreciated.
- NaturalPhallacy 4y ago
  Admittedly snarky: You sound like you believe in the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory! More reasonable: I recognized consortiumnews.com because that's where famous NSA code breaker and whistleblower Bill Binney published his debunk of the of the "Russia hacked the DNC" hoax: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/ https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-r... So personally I think they picked at least one excellent source. I can't speak to the others. >UPD globalresearch.ca was even included in "Pillars of Russia's Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem" report: Ahh yes, because the US government would never lie, 7 years after it became legal to do so: https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-lifting-of-us-propaganda-ban-gives-new-meaning-to-old-song/237493/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-... Russian media influence on the US doesn't hold a candle to domestic media that is frequently found to be heavily biased to be pro establishment, to outright wrong. Russia is a red herring.
  - spacemanmatt 4y ago
    > Russian media influence on the US doesn't hold a candle to domestic media that is frequently found to be heavily biased to be pro establishment, to outright wrong. Russia is a red herring. Russia did attempt and intend to interfere with the 2016 election and they will do it again. Their unregistered agents are still getting convicted.
  - throwoutway 4y ago
    That doesn’t seem to successfully debunk it. Maybe to just present a counterpoint? But hackers are known to cover their tracks and mislead so..
threatofrain 4y ago
What's wrong with just using a news aggregator? Follow stories and evaluate inter-rater reliability rather than any specific news outlet. I've found Google News pretty reliable for that.
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  I've found Google News reliable at promoting AMP sites and little else.
Rovoska 4y ago
OP is a complete fool to think that there is such a thing as non politically leaning news sources. Such a thing cannot, will not, and has never existed.
- upwardbound 4y ago
  I understand; the hope is to achieve a pool of sources that have minimal bias individually AND whose overall biases cancel each other out. I.E. ideally we can find 50% of sources that are slightly right of center and 50% that are slightly left of center so they balance out. Does this seem more tractible?

9 points by upwardbound 4y ago

See also this discussion yesterday about the Brave Goggles feature in general, and information about how you can make them: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31837986 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31837986

upwardbound 4y ago

If you don't have the Brave browser, you can still try this Goggle if you use the test page here: https://search.brave.com/goggles?goggles_id=https%3A%2F%2Fraw.githubusercontent.com%2Fpreambleai%2Fbrave-goggles%2Fmain%2Fcentrist-news https://search.brave.com/goggles?goggles_id=https%3A%2F%2Fra...

addcninblue 4y ago
Also, you can add a Goggle-enabled Brave as a search engine in Chrome by using the following url: https://search.brave.com/goggles?q=%s+&source=web&goggles_id=https%253A%252F%252Fraw.githubusercontent.com%252Fpreambleai%252Fbrave-goggles%252Fmain%252Fcentrist-news&nav=site (The %s stands in for the search, and the goggles_id specifies the link above.)

r721 4y ago

I have seen pretty wild conspiracy theories on consortiumnews.com/thelastamericanvagabond.com/globalresearch.ca/informationclearinghouse.info, so personally I'm not sure you selected good sources to boost. UPD globalresearch.ca was even included in "Pillars of Russia's Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem" report: https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-Russia%E2%80%99s-Disinformation-and-Propaganda-Ecosystem_08-04-20.pdf https://www.state.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Pillars-of-...

upwardbound 4y ago
Thank you very much for the heads-up. I updated the Goggle to remove those 4 sites from the boost list. Thank you so much for the feedback, very very much appreciated.
NaturalPhallacy 4y ago
Admittedly snarky: You sound like you believe in the Trump-Russia conspiracy theory! More reasonable: I recognized consortiumnews.com because that's where famous NSA code breaker and whistleblower Bill Binney published his debunk of the of the "Russia hacked the DNC" hoax: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/ https://consortiumnews.com/2017/07/24/intel-vets-challenge-r... So personally I think they picked at least one excellent source. I can't speak to the others. >UPD globalresearch.ca was even included in "Pillars of Russia's Disinformation and Propaganda Ecosystem" report: Ahh yes, because the US government would never lie, 7 years after it became legal to do so: https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-lifting-of-us-propaganda-ban-gives-new-meaning-to-old-song/237493/ https://www.mintpressnews.com/planting-stories-in-the-press-... Russian media influence on the US doesn't hold a candle to domestic media that is frequently found to be heavily biased to be pro establishment, to outright wrong. Russia is a red herring.
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  > Russian media influence on the US doesn't hold a candle to domestic media that is frequently found to be heavily biased to be pro establishment, to outright wrong. Russia is a red herring. Russia did attempt and intend to interfere with the 2016 election and they will do it again. Their unregistered agents are still getting convicted.
- throwoutway 4y ago
  That doesn’t seem to successfully debunk it. Maybe to just present a counterpoint? But hackers are known to cover their tracks and mislead so..

threatofrain 4y ago

What's wrong with just using a news aggregator? Follow stories and evaluate inter-rater reliability rather than any specific news outlet. I've found Google News pretty reliable for that.

spacemanmatt 4y ago
I've found Google News reliable at promoting AMP sites and little else.

Rovoska 4y ago

OP is a complete fool to think that there is such a thing as non politically leaning news sources. Such a thing cannot, will not, and has never existed.

upwardbound 4y ago
I understand; the hope is to achieve a pool of sources that have minimal bias individually AND whose overall biases cancel each other out. I.E. ideally we can find 50% of sources that are slightly right of center and 50% that are slightly left of center so they balance out. Does this seem more tractible?