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Are you talking about Government employees or lobbyists? BTW, notice that their power is circumscribed by the law. When that changes their powers change.

feet 4y ago
Lmao what? They write the laws! Think tanks are literally paid to draft legislation
- sailfast 4y ago
  Think tanks are not the government. They are private institutions. Typically when one uses the term "deep state" you mean someone working in the government that has their own agenda and/or are acting on a specific conspiracy / cabal agenda counter to the direction of, say, the administration providing the guidance and direction. This is why the person asked about employees vs. lobbyists.
  - feet 4y ago
    Yea, its the normal government and the deep state is the fact that its actually controlled by corporations and lobbyists. The corporations and lobbyists and think tanks are the deep state. They're the ones really in control, spreading propaganda and getting Americans to vote against their personal interests. Politicians are the biggest cucks for capitalism because they all get rich in office by fearing the corporate lobbyists and giving them the legislation that they want. That's the deep state
    - ajvs 4y ago
      Whilst I agree that external moneyed interests control the US government to a large degree via the aforementioned mechanisms, this is not what people refer to when they say Deep State. Deep State refers to government employees who hold a lot of power e.g. heads of alphabet agencies, their close underlings, etc and wield it in such a way that there's little recourse for the average American. Both these moneyed interests AND the Deep State exert an influence that citizens should seek to regulate.
      - feet 4y ago
        What I'm saying is that those people in government who could be considered "deep state" are the ones appointed due to the money in politics. I agree that there is unaccountability but it all comes down to money and corporate power The ones with the money and corporate power are pulling the strings of those who they install

feet 4y ago

Lmao what? They write the laws! Think tanks are literally paid to draft legislation

sailfast 4y ago
Think tanks are not the government. They are private institutions. Typically when one uses the term "deep state" you mean someone working in the government that has their own agenda and/or are acting on a specific conspiracy / cabal agenda counter to the direction of, say, the administration providing the guidance and direction. This is why the person asked about employees vs. lobbyists.
- feet 4y ago
  Yea, its the normal government and the deep state is the fact that its actually controlled by corporations and lobbyists. The corporations and lobbyists and think tanks are the deep state. They're the ones really in control, spreading propaganda and getting Americans to vote against their personal interests. Politicians are the biggest cucks for capitalism because they all get rich in office by fearing the corporate lobbyists and giving them the legislation that they want. That's the deep state
  - ajvs 4y ago
    Whilst I agree that external moneyed interests control the US government to a large degree via the aforementioned mechanisms, this is not what people refer to when they say Deep State. Deep State refers to government employees who hold a lot of power e.g. heads of alphabet agencies, their close underlings, etc and wield it in such a way that there's little recourse for the average American. Both these moneyed interests AND the Deep State exert an influence that citizens should seek to regulate.
    - feet 4y ago
      What I'm saying is that those people in government who could be considered "deep state" are the ones appointed due to the money in politics. I agree that there is unaccountability but it all comes down to money and corporate power The ones with the money and corporate power are pulling the strings of those who they install