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I'm an American, but I occasionally use an EU VPN. I don't understand how EU residents can tolerate the number of cookie/privacy/GDPR/whatever popups every site

by ronsor 4y ago

I'm an American, but I occasionally use an EU VPN. I don't understand how EU residents can tolerate the number of cookie/privacy/GDPR/whatever popups every site has, even on the sites of EU companies.

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iLoveOncall 4y ago
We don't. Outside of a few greybeards the vast majority of the population would gladly send all of their data including dick pics and credit card numbers to remove those popups. The law was absolutely useless because 99% of the websites have an illegal implementation and still added a major annoyance in the form of the popup / banner.
jokethrowaway 4y ago
We Europeans are generally used to do whatever the government tell us. We don't have the same culture as Americans. Don't get me wrong, you had a pretty bad deal as well: without much fanfare, your government grew up so much in the last 200 years that it became the largest employer in the world. You pay loads of taxes (even more than several EU countries) and get very little benefits. And yet, I'm sure that if we will get to a political solution to the ever-growing cancers that governments are, that solution is more likely to appear in the states than in Europe. Europe is a hopeless - albeit beautiful - land. The people gave up change 50 years ago.
- tannhaeuser 4y ago
  Err, just to avoid further misunderstanding: I'm pro-GDPR ;) and think it's right to confront users with the hydra behind the crap on the web. What I think has destroyed the web is attention economy, monopolies, the race to the bottom, and lack of incentive for quality content. Agree though that Europeans could do with more libertarianism and less trust in state; it's something that's been a big issue for me since at least CoVid hysteria.
- trasz 4y ago
  >We Europeans are generally used to do whatever the government tell us. As opposed to those who used to do whatever the private companies tell them?
solar-ice 4y ago
My impression is the lawmakers assumed that companies would do what they go on about in their blogs and marketing material all the time - ensure the best user experience for their customers, which they could do by properly complying with the GDPR. Instead, the companies took their masks off and decided to beat us over the head with illegal consent popups to trick us into believing that a damaged user experience is the only possible outcome of the GDPR.

by ronsor 4y ago

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iLoveOncall 4y ago

We don't. Outside of a few greybeards the vast majority of the population would gladly send all of their data including dick pics and credit card numbers to remove those popups. The law was absolutely useless because 99% of the websites have an illegal implementation and still added a major annoyance in the form of the popup / banner.

jokethrowaway 4y ago

We Europeans are generally used to do whatever the government tell us. We don't have the same culture as Americans. Don't get me wrong, you had a pretty bad deal as well: without much fanfare, your government grew up so much in the last 200 years that it became the largest employer in the world. You pay loads of taxes (even more than several EU countries) and get very little benefits. And yet, I'm sure that if we will get to a political solution to the ever-growing cancers that governments are, that solution is more likely to appear in the states than in Europe. Europe is a hopeless - albeit beautiful - land. The people gave up change 50 years ago.

tannhaeuser 4y ago
Err, just to avoid further misunderstanding: I'm pro-GDPR ;) and think it's right to confront users with the hydra behind the crap on the web. What I think has destroyed the web is attention economy, monopolies, the race to the bottom, and lack of incentive for quality content. Agree though that Europeans could do with more libertarianism and less trust in state; it's something that's been a big issue for me since at least CoVid hysteria.
trasz 4y ago
>We Europeans are generally used to do whatever the government tell us. As opposed to those who used to do whatever the private companies tell them?

solar-ice 4y ago

My impression is the lawmakers assumed that companies would do what they go on about in their blogs and marketing material all the time - ensure the best user experience for their customers, which they could do by properly complying with the GDPR. Instead, the companies took their masks off and decided to beat us over the head with illegal consent popups to trick us into believing that a damaged user experience is the only possible outcome of the GDPR.