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> Yandex Search engine hides the pictures of Bucha and Irpin massacre as well as Kharkiv and Mariupol destruction That's just not true, try it yourself. It jus

by xpl 4y ago

> Yandex Search engine hides the pictures of Bucha and Irpin massacre as well as Kharkiv and Mariupol destruction That's just not true, try it yourself. It just does not display the latest images by default (though it's easily turned on in the filter settings), and that's why on the very day the news appeared on the Internet, people went crazy about that Yandex somehow "hides the truth"... > Yandex News service ignores the genocide currently happening in Ukraine That is actually required by the Russian regulations on news aggregator services. Yeah, those regulations are unfair and oppressive, but it's the local law to which Yandex must comply. And by the way, they're going to get rid of that toxic asset: https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/28/yandex-sells-news-zen-vk https://techcrunch.com/2022/04/28/yandex-sells-news-zen-vk (I suppose they can't just shut it down because the government threatens to nationalize Yandex in response) > Yandex supports the Russian Terrorist regime Can you please show any public statement from Yandex from which one could derive that?

SXX 4y ago
> That is actually required by the Russian regulations on news aggregator services. I Was Just Following Orders (c) Yandex could just shut down Yandex.News service completely years ago without repercussions. They choose not to.
- xpl 4y ago
  > without repercussions That comes from where? The repercussions could have been very severe. The Russian government easily takes over and seizes control over "rogue companies". Russia is not a free country, my friend.
  - SXX 4y ago
    I am from Russia (though moved to Turkiye once war began) and I do have several friends working at Yandex on different positions including some quite high in management. So I well aware about their reasoning behind keeping working at Yandex. Basically even today after war has began and tens of thousands were killed on both sides some of people working there still hold the illusion that they could continue to live in their bubble and continue to innovate in Russia like nothing happen. So no, they are not some poor IT company opressed by the government. Every employee who wanted to immigrate was able to move abroad. 6-10 years ago Yandex can certainly shut down their news service without being seized. Back in 2008-2012 one of Yandex co-founders and ex-CTO Ilya Segalovich was often visitor of street protests almost until his death in 2013 and this did not caused company to be seized.
The_Colonel 4y ago
> I suppose they can't just shut it down because the government threatens to nationalize Yandex in response They can destroy equipment, safely delete all the code repositories etc. beforehand, thus rendering the company useless before the nationalization. But $$$ is more important. > Can you please show any public statement from Yandex from which one could derive that? Yandex pays tens/hundreds of millions in taxes and thus finances the war.
- xpl 4y ago
  > Yandex pays tens/hundreds of millions in taxes and thus finances the war. So what? You shut down the business with 20k employees, on the grounds that you do not agree with local regulations or because the government did bad? That is as far from reality as it gets. > But $$$ is more important Yeah, I think preserving the company is more important than that proposed suicide move (that wouldn't have worked anyway because the company is just too huge). It's not just money, it's people, it's culture, it's all the great projects the company does.
  - The_Colonel 4y ago
    > It's not just money, it's people, it's culture, it's all the great projects the company does. What about people killed by the Russian army, sponsored by Yandex? I guess those matter less than the company culture, right?
    - xpl 4y ago
      The Russian army is not sponsored by Yandex. The money comes from selling natural resources... and mostly to Europe, surprise. It's about $1 billion per day. Tax money from private companies is nothing compared to that. So Europe is sponsoring the war way more than Yandex. Let's then shut down the Europe, right? You can say — look, they're trying hard to get rid of Russian resources. But Yandex is also trying hard to become less dependent on Russian economy — they try to internationalize their business. And all that "canceling" of Yandex really doesn't help (it does the opposite in fact).
lukestateson 4y ago
> That is actually required by the Russian regulations Russian Terrorist Regime *

by xpl 4y ago

SXX 4y ago

> That is actually required by the Russian regulations on news aggregator services. I Was Just Following Orders (c) Yandex could just shut down Yandex.News service completely years ago without repercussions. They choose not to.

xpl 4y ago
> without repercussions That comes from where? The repercussions could have been very severe. The Russian government easily takes over and seizes control over "rogue companies". Russia is not a free country, my friend.
- SXX 4y ago
  I am from Russia (though moved to Turkiye once war began) and I do have several friends working at Yandex on different positions including some quite high in management. So I well aware about their reasoning behind keeping working at Yandex. Basically even today after war has began and tens of thousands were killed on both sides some of people working there still hold the illusion that they could continue to live in their bubble and continue to innovate in Russia like nothing happen. So no, they are not some poor IT company opressed by the government. Every employee who wanted to immigrate was able to move abroad. 6-10 years ago Yandex can certainly shut down their news service without being seized. Back in 2008-2012 one of Yandex co-founders and ex-CTO Ilya Segalovich was often visitor of street protests almost until his death in 2013 and this did not caused company to be seized.

The_Colonel 4y ago

> I suppose they can't just shut it down because the government threatens to nationalize Yandex in response They can destroy equipment, safely delete all the code repositories etc. beforehand, thus rendering the company useless before the nationalization. But $$$ is more important. > Can you please show any public statement from Yandex from which one could derive that? Yandex pays tens/hundreds of millions in taxes and thus finances the war.

xpl 4y ago
> Yandex pays tens/hundreds of millions in taxes and thus finances the war. So what? You shut down the business with 20k employees, on the grounds that you do not agree with local regulations or because the government did bad? That is as far from reality as it gets. > But $$$ is more important Yeah, I think preserving the company is more important than that proposed suicide move (that wouldn't have worked anyway because the company is just too huge). It's not just money, it's people, it's culture, it's all the great projects the company does.
- The_Colonel 4y ago
  > It's not just money, it's people, it's culture, it's all the great projects the company does. What about people killed by the Russian army, sponsored by Yandex? I guess those matter less than the company culture, right?
  - xpl 4y ago
    The Russian army is not sponsored by Yandex. The money comes from selling natural resources... and mostly to Europe, surprise. It's about $1 billion per day. Tax money from private companies is nothing compared to that. So Europe is sponsoring the war way more than Yandex. Let's then shut down the Europe, right? You can say — look, they're trying hard to get rid of Russian resources. But Yandex is also trying hard to become less dependent on Russian economy — they try to internationalize their business. And all that "canceling" of Yandex really doesn't help (it does the opposite in fact).

lukestateson 4y ago

> That is actually required by the Russian regulations Russian Terrorist Regime *