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Here’s some “original research”: Mark’s trial started today. The prosecution is requesting 3 years of some sort of home detention (“home chemistry” in local par

by maratc 4y ago

Here’s some “original research”: Mark’s trial started today. The prosecution is requesting 3 years of some sort of home detention (“home chemistry” in local parlance). He will be allowed (or maybe required) to go to work, otherwise he needs to stay at home. Moving farther than some distance from home is prohibited. Alcohol consumption is also prohibited. Electronic surveillance is mandatory. All things considered, it could be much worse.

deepsun 4y ago
It's the first step. News that he is converted from "less restrictive" to "more restrictive" sentence won't make headlines. Dictatorship never happens one day, it always creeps in bit by bit.
O__________O 4y ago
Not familiar with the specifics of Mark’s case, but a possibly comparable trial of Pavel Pernikaŭ resulted in him being sentenced to 2 years in a penal colony. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Pavel_Pernikaŭ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Pavel_Pernikaŭ
- maratc 4y ago
  I don't think the trial can result in a harsher sentence than the one being requested by the prosecution.
d23 4y ago
> All things considered, it could be much worse. This is insane. How can this be normalized? Are there people on here who think this is okay? How can this not be downvoted to oblivion? If this is normalized, all is lost, and I do mean all.
- maratc 4y ago
  I'm far from normalizing it and I don't know why you think I'm normalizing it. The prosecution could have asked for a time in a penal colony, or time in prison. With the rubber-stamp courts they have in place, the prosecution would have got what it asked. Is this normal? No, far from it. I'm just pointing out that it could have ended much, much worse for Mark.
  - d23 4y ago
    > All things considered, it could be much worse. > I'm just pointing out that it could have ended much, much worse for Mark. This is how you're normalizing it. I don't know how you can't see that.
    - maratc 4y ago
      I'm just stating the facts. I don't like that these facts are the way they are even a tiny bit, but they are what they are regardless. You can twist my stating the facts in whatever direction you want. This however says more about you than it does about me.
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BudaDude 4y ago
> Alcohol consumption is also prohibited I don't know a lot about Russian laws, but that is just cruel.

by maratc 4y ago

deepsun 4y ago

It's the first step. News that he is converted from "less restrictive" to "more restrictive" sentence won't make headlines. Dictatorship never happens one day, it always creeps in bit by bit.

O__________O 4y ago

Not familiar with the specifics of Mark’s case, but a possibly comparable trial of Pavel Pernikaŭ resulted in him being sentenced to 2 years in a penal colony. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Pavel_Pernikaŭ https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detention_of_Pavel_Pernikaŭ

maratc 4y ago
I don't think the trial can result in a harsher sentence than the one being requested by the prosecution.

d23 4y ago

> All things considered, it could be much worse. This is insane. How can this be normalized? Are there people on here who think this is okay? How can this not be downvoted to oblivion? If this is normalized, all is lost, and I do mean all.

maratc 4y ago
I'm far from normalizing it and I don't know why you think I'm normalizing it. The prosecution could have asked for a time in a penal colony, or time in prison. With the rubber-stamp courts they have in place, the prosecution would have got what it asked. Is this normal? No, far from it. I'm just pointing out that it could have ended much, much worse for Mark.
- d23 4y ago
  > All things considered, it could be much worse. > I'm just pointing out that it could have ended much, much worse for Mark. This is how you're normalizing it. I don't know how you can't see that.
  - maratc 4y ago
    I'm just stating the facts. I don't like that these facts are the way they are even a tiny bit, but they are what they are regardless. You can twist my stating the facts in whatever direction you want. This however says more about you than it does about me.
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BudaDude 4y ago

> Alcohol consumption is also prohibited I don't know a lot about Russian laws, but that is just cruel.