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Yes, I suppose an ounce of Draino is better to drink than a gallon. I can’t believe my original comment is being downvoted; I enjoy nicotine. I spent most of m

Yes, I suppose an ounce of Draino is better to drink than a gallon. I can’t believe my original comment is being downvoted; I enjoy nicotine. I spent most of my early 20s smoking. It’s pure fantasy and intellectual dishonesty to label vaping as a healthier alternative to smoking. Either way you’re a slave to nicotine. Acknowledge it and be okay with it and the adverse health effects likely to strike you — heart disease, high blood pressure, stroke, kidney disease — or quit. But don’t lie to yourself that there’s any modicum of an argument to be made about healthy alternatives.

ziddoap 4y ago
>I can’t believe my original comment is being downvoted I didn't downvote you, so I don't know, but if I were to hazard a guess as to why it's being downvoted it's the absolutist stance you are taking. Like most things in life, healthiness is a spectrum and your refusal to acknowledge that is frustrating. >It’s pure fantasy and intellectual dishonesty to label vaping as a healthier alternative to smoking. The current medical understanding disagrees. A few chemicals inhaled is better than a few thousand chemicals. John Hopkins Medicine, for example, explicitly agrees that vaping is less harmful than smoking [1], but both are still obviously worse than not inhaling anything and if you have the willpower to drop nicotine all-together, that is very obviously the best choice. >Blaha says “There’s almost no doubt that vaping exposes you to fewer toxic chemicals than smoking traditional cigarettes.” [1] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/5-truths-you-need-to-know-about-vaping#:~:text=1%3A%20Vaping%20is%20less%20harmful,many%20of%20which%20are%20toxic https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi....
- keithwhor 4y ago
  You know instead of defending a toxic chemical on a message board you can just quit, right? The only dog I have in this fight is what you have graciously pointed out — that the “very obviously best choice” is to quit nicotine altogether. Kowtowing to nicotine pundits about health benefits of a toxic chemical ends with generations of adults slaves to said chemical, early deaths and ruined lives. I don’t do it and you shouldn’t either.
  - ziddoap 4y ago
    >You know instead of defending a toxic chemical on a message board you can just quit, right? Lol. I don't vape or smoke, what a weird assumption to make solely because I pointed out that something can be healthier without being healthy. For someone without a dog in this, you sure seem awfully eager here and elsewhere in the thread.
    - keithwhor 4y ago
      Ah, the only thing more addictive than nicotine — online pedantry. I just said I do have a dog in this fight. You should too, it’s a major public health issue. Congrats on not smoking! Hope you keep it that way and encourage others to follow in your footsteps.

ziddoap 4y ago

>I can’t believe my original comment is being downvoted I didn't downvote you, so I don't know, but if I were to hazard a guess as to why it's being downvoted it's the absolutist stance you are taking. Like most things in life, healthiness is a spectrum and your refusal to acknowledge that is frustrating. >It’s pure fantasy and intellectual dishonesty to label vaping as a healthier alternative to smoking. The current medical understanding disagrees. A few chemicals inhaled is better than a few thousand chemicals. John Hopkins Medicine, for example, explicitly agrees that vaping is less harmful than smoking [1], but both are still obviously worse than not inhaling anything and if you have the willpower to drop nicotine all-together, that is very obviously the best choice. >Blaha says “There’s almost no doubt that vaping exposes you to fewer toxic chemicals than smoking traditional cigarettes.” [1] https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/5-truths-you-need-to-know-about-vaping#:~:text=1%3A%20Vaping%20is%20less%20harmful,many%20of%20which%20are%20toxic https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-preventi....

keithwhor 4y ago
You know instead of defending a toxic chemical on a message board you can just quit, right? The only dog I have in this fight is what you have graciously pointed out — that the “very obviously best choice” is to quit nicotine altogether. Kowtowing to nicotine pundits about health benefits of a toxic chemical ends with generations of adults slaves to said chemical, early deaths and ruined lives. I don’t do it and you shouldn’t either.
- ziddoap 4y ago
  >You know instead of defending a toxic chemical on a message board you can just quit, right? Lol. I don't vape or smoke, what a weird assumption to make solely because I pointed out that something can be healthier without being healthy. For someone without a dog in this, you sure seem awfully eager here and elsewhere in the thread.
  - keithwhor 4y ago
    Ah, the only thing more addictive than nicotine — online pedantry. I just said I do have a dog in this fight. You should too, it’s a major public health issue. Congrats on not smoking! Hope you keep it that way and encourage others to follow in your footsteps.