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Blatantly incorrect. Google engages in egregious political censorship all the time. Including censorship for Russian government and censorship of US anti-war vo

Blatantly incorrect. Google engages in egregious political censorship all the time. Including censorship for Russian government and censorship of US anti-war voices. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorship-complaints-with-more-censorship/ https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorshi... https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-covid-election-and-climate-related-ads/ https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-... https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-to-hide-vpn-websites/ https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-t... In US they pretend to "decide" to censor things "on their own" because 1st amendment prevents the government from officially demanding censorship.

dang 4y ago
> This is either astounding ignorance or blatant gaslighting. Can you please edit name-calling / swipes like that out of your HN comments? It breaks the site guidelines and weakens your point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- lostmsu 4y ago
  Considering the importance of the topic, and provided the linked articles actually contained examples of Google censoring anti-war propaganda, I believe the swipe would have been fully justified. Highly emotional tone changes how the data affects the reader. If he is right, I would surely better remember next time that Google is in the same ballpark due to the insult hitting hard. If he is wrong, I will know better to ignore such claims in the future without a direct quote or something else that consumes less time than reading an entire linked article.
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lostmsu 4y ago
None of your links show Google censoring anti-war propaganda.
- gambler 4y ago
  https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google-censoring-internet-searches-progressive-anti-war-and-socialist-web-sites-are-targetted/ https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google... https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    Still no. First case I would not even consider censorship. The third one was temporary until Google stopped operating in Russia altogether. A quote from the second one: "cumulative 45 percent decrease in traffic from Google searches"
    - gambler 4y ago
      There is a difference between "Google does not censor anti-war content" and "Google does censor anti-war content, but usually has an excuse I find acceptable". When a company puts Jon Lennon's Merry Xmas (War is Over) behind age restriction banner[1], the question stops being "Is there censorship?" and becomes about the logic of such censorship. >The third one was temporary until Google stopped operating in Russia altogether. They've censored other things on behest of the Russian government for years[2]. Again, I cannot fathom how people on a tech website like HN can be unaware of such things. This is common knowledge broadly covered on mainstream websites. --- [1] https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-john-lennon-war-is-over-warning-filter/ https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-john-lennon-war-is-over-wa... [2] https://www.rferl.org/a/google-censors-search-results-after-russian-government-threat-reports-say/29757686.html https://www.rferl.org/a/google-censors-search-results-after-...
      - 4y ago

dang 4y ago

> This is either astounding ignorance or blatant gaslighting. Can you please edit name-calling / swipes like that out of your HN comments? It breaks the site guidelines and weakens your point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

lostmsu 4y ago
Considering the importance of the topic, and provided the linked articles actually contained examples of Google censoring anti-war propaganda, I believe the swipe would have been fully justified. Highly emotional tone changes how the data affects the reader. If he is right, I would surely better remember next time that Google is in the same ballpark due to the insult hitting hard. If he is wrong, I will know better to ignore such claims in the future without a direct quote or something else that consumes less time than reading an entire linked article.
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lostmsu 4y ago

None of your links show Google censoring anti-war propaganda.

gambler 4y ago
https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google-censoring-internet-searches-progressive-anti-war-and-socialist-web-sites-are-targetted/ https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google... https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war
- lostmsu 4y ago
  Still no. First case I would not even consider censorship. The third one was temporary until Google stopped operating in Russia altogether. A quote from the second one: "cumulative 45 percent decrease in traffic from Google searches"
  - gambler 4y ago
    There is a difference between "Google does not censor anti-war content" and "Google does censor anti-war content, but usually has an excuse I find acceptable". When a company puts Jon Lennon's Merry Xmas (War is Over) behind age restriction banner[1], the question stops being "Is there censorship?" and becomes about the logic of such censorship. >The third one was temporary until Google stopped operating in Russia altogether. They've censored other things on behest of the Russian government for years[2]. Again, I cannot fathom how people on a tech website like HN can be unaware of such things. This is common knowledge broadly covered on mainstream websites. --- [1] https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-john-lennon-war-is-over-warning-filter/ https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-john-lennon-war-is-over-wa... [2] https://www.rferl.org/a/google-censors-search-results-after-russian-government-threat-reports-say/29757686.html https://www.rferl.org/a/google-censors-search-results-after-...
    - 4y ago