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> But who knows -- I think it's entirely possible to mix contemporary trendy politics without hurting the quality of the actual piece. I feel like The Boys Sea

by _gabe_ 4y ago

> But who knows -- I think it's entirely possible to mix contemporary trendy politics without hurting the quality of the actual piece. I feel like The Boys Season 3 is a stark counterpoint to this opinion. I didn't mind the left leaning stuff in the first 2 seasons because it wasn't so overtly in your face, but season 3 just had to inject it in literally every aspect of the show. I've never literally had a bad taste in my mouth after watching a show, but I promptly cancelled my prime membership with a bad taste in my mouth after watching the first couple episodes of this season.

darthrupert 4y ago
I'm not saying it would be probable, just that it is possible. For example, the first two Alien movies had strong female characters (perhaps a statement in 70s and 80s) that made the movie better.
timmytokyo 4y ago
> I didn't mind the left leaning stuff in the first 2 seasons because it wasn't so overtly in your face. I don't get this. The villain of season 2 was literally a Nazi named "Stormfront" who riled up a cult-like following on social media. How much more in your face could it possibly get? Season 3 feels like a natural continuation of that. In fact, one could argue that the whole series is more cynical than political. Season 3 is poking a stick at ostensibly "woke" corporations with its portrayal of Vought as a shallow and opportunistic supporter of progressive causes.
- 3qz 4y ago
  The problem is that the new season includes current events. I don’t care that the villain is a Nazi, but making a caricature of a present day political opponent and then beating them up on screen goes too far. I’m so sick of hearing about BLM.
- _gabe_ 4y ago
  > The villain of season 2 was literally a Nazi named "Stormfront" who riled up a cult-like following on social media. Yes... and? I don't know you personally, but if you truly believe that the vast majority of conservatives are closet Nazis, may I suggest you actually talk to some real people? Not fringe people on Reddit or some other social media site, but real life people that are conservatives. Conservatives of whom you would be very hard pressed to find someone who does not denounce all forms of Naziism and communism in general?
dragonwriter 4y ago
> I didn't mind the left leaning stuff in the first 2 seasons because it wasn't so overtly in your face Uh, what? Violent, nationalistic, performatively Christian, law-and-order, hero-worshipping big-man conservatism as a front for both fascism and corporate profiteering is pervasive from the beginning. I’m not sure how it could be more in your face. The Boys doesn't do subtlety.
- _gabe_ 4y ago
  > Violent, nationalistic, performatively Christian, law-and-order, hero-worshipping big-man conservatism as a front for both fascism and corporate profiteering is pervasive from the beginning. Yea, and this stuff is pervasive in any big series or movie that's come out in the past 5 years that's not aimed at a children's audience. Maybe it's more telling that I can look past all that stuff because of how pervasive it is in every other aspect of our culture. And additionally, as a conservative I agree with a lot of these points, and I think it's good to be reminded of the hypocrisy that many conservatives live out. In my opinion, the first two seasons had a pretty equal underpining of pointing out the hypocrisy of the left as well which is why I enjoyed them. Season 3 did not feel balanced. Sure they still pointed out the hypocrisy of some of the left's values, but it feels to me like they've taken a much more unbalanced approach with this latest season.

by _gabe_ 4y ago

darthrupert 4y ago

I'm not saying it would be probable, just that it is possible. For example, the first two Alien movies had strong female characters (perhaps a statement in 70s and 80s) that made the movie better.

timmytokyo 4y ago

> I didn't mind the left leaning stuff in the first 2 seasons because it wasn't so overtly in your face. I don't get this. The villain of season 2 was literally a Nazi named "Stormfront" who riled up a cult-like following on social media. How much more in your face could it possibly get? Season 3 feels like a natural continuation of that. In fact, one could argue that the whole series is more cynical than political. Season 3 is poking a stick at ostensibly "woke" corporations with its portrayal of Vought as a shallow and opportunistic supporter of progressive causes.

3qz 4y ago
The problem is that the new season includes current events. I don’t care that the villain is a Nazi, but making a caricature of a present day political opponent and then beating them up on screen goes too far. I’m so sick of hearing about BLM.
_gabe_ 4y ago
> The villain of season 2 was literally a Nazi named "Stormfront" who riled up a cult-like following on social media. Yes... and? I don't know you personally, but if you truly believe that the vast majority of conservatives are closet Nazis, may I suggest you actually talk to some real people? Not fringe people on Reddit or some other social media site, but real life people that are conservatives. Conservatives of whom you would be very hard pressed to find someone who does not denounce all forms of Naziism and communism in general?

dragonwriter 4y ago

> I didn't mind the left leaning stuff in the first 2 seasons because it wasn't so overtly in your face Uh, what? Violent, nationalistic, performatively Christian, law-and-order, hero-worshipping big-man conservatism as a front for both fascism and corporate profiteering is pervasive from the beginning. I’m not sure how it could be more in your face. The Boys doesn't do subtlety.

_gabe_ 4y ago
> Violent, nationalistic, performatively Christian, law-and-order, hero-worshipping big-man conservatism as a front for both fascism and corporate profiteering is pervasive from the beginning. Yea, and this stuff is pervasive in any big series or movie that's come out in the past 5 years that's not aimed at a children's audience. Maybe it's more telling that I can look past all that stuff because of how pervasive it is in every other aspect of our culture. And additionally, as a conservative I agree with a lot of these points, and I think it's good to be reminded of the hypocrisy that many conservatives live out. In my opinion, the first two seasons had a pretty equal underpining of pointing out the hypocrisy of the left as well which is why I enjoyed them. Season 3 did not feel balanced. Sure they still pointed out the hypocrisy of some of the left's values, but it feels to me like they've taken a much more unbalanced approach with this latest season.