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That cow has been milked, milked again, squeezed for every last drop, then when it died, its corpse was milked and the pus that came out was mistaken for milk s

That cow has been milked, milked again, squeezed for every last drop, then when it died, its corpse was milked and the pus that came out was mistaken for milk so it was squeezed again for every last drop of pus.

natly 4y ago
Makes me think of how gross it is that they still milk avicii's brand to this day years after his body left our world.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Is that even close to the same thing? LOTR keeps getting new "content". Has there been new music released from the library of avicii? I'm not talking about remixes upon remixes. Is there a AviciiSociety in charge of his legacy content that decides who/what/when/where can use the unreleased content to do something new? Maybe there is, and I can learn something new.
adamc 4y ago
Laundry lists of middle earth, coming to a "bookseller" near you. I love LOTR, but this is kind of gross.
havblue 4y ago
This is why some people use the unpleasant metaphor of a skin suit to describe most of the continuing franchises of star wars, trek, marvel etc. They aren't primarily being written or inspired by their creators as much as new people wearing the skin of their creator.
- ghaff 4y ago
  With rare exceptions like The Mandalorian, I can just no longer summon up enthusiasm or interest in franchises that date back to the 1960s or 70s--even when there's not really anything wrong with a given film or TV show. (Though there are plenty of examples where the latest film or TV show is not in fact very good.)
  - all2 4y ago
    I grew up reading my father's pulp scifi collection. I have a keen desire for the gritty Star Wars universe as told by the likes of Timothy Zahn (seriously, the Admiral Thrawn trilogy needs to be faithfully pursued). Even George Lucas was unable to recapture his original vision.
    - ghaff 4y ago
      I'm probably more sympathetic (and often more enjoy) stories that are told in an existing universe but don't overly try to "go home again." Deep Space 9 was a good example in the Star Trek universe and Rogue One in Star Wars.
- bartread 4y ago
  What particularly struck me about Top Gun: Maverick, which I didn't expect at all, is that it held a very unflattering mirror up to the Marvel dross that's being endlessly churned out by showing how to make an absolutely great action movie. Yes, I know it's a sequel, and yes, there are many aspects of the story that are hardly groundbreaking, but it's just incredibly well done. (I realise TG: Maverick isn't going to be everybody's taste but it's the best film I've seen at the cinema in a long time, and the first time I've walked out of a movie feeling absolutely wowed since, perhaps, The Matrix came out in 1999.)
  - inopinatus 4y ago
    I was especially moved by a scene where the Tom Cruise humbly confesses “this is the only look I have”, in relatable acknowledgment of his limitations as an actor.
    - chaoticmass 4y ago
      The whole movie can be taken as a sort of metaphor for how movie stars like Tom Cruise and the movies he makes, with real stunts and little CG, are a dying breed. Especially the scene with Admiral Caine telling Maverick that drones replacing pilots is inevitable, and Maverick replying, "Maybe, but not today."
    - AlwaysRock 4y ago
      Eyes Wide Shut? Collateral? Magnolia? He can certainly play characters outside the big action hero. He just gets paid a shitload of money to keep making shit big budget action movies and he's a high level cult leader who has an ego the size of a planet. He could do well in a little indie movie that pushes his range but his life and personality prevents that way more than his range as an actor.
      - hguant 4y ago
        >Eyes Wide Shut? Tangent about this: There was a very interesting Roger Ebert review of Eyes Wide Shut that addressed some of the criticism of Tom Cruise's acting in that film. Cruise had been described as "wooden" and Ebert came to his defense. Kubrick - who is on record as being a perfectionist who believes that actors are best when they're meat puppets for the director - made Cruise go through 97 takes of walking through a door. Either that's just sadism on part of the director's ego (and there may be something to that, Kubrick is notorious for playing psychological games with actors to get the performance he wants - or Kubrick working to get exactly what he wants on the screen.
- honkdaddy 4y ago
  The Simpsons is among the absolute worst of offenders. See Dead Homer Society [1] for a passionate fan's detailed explanation. [1] https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/zombiesimpsons/ https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/zombiesimpsons/
  - wincy 4y ago
    I’m disappointed, the actual book link gives a 404
  - dwringer 4y ago
    It's as though the characters have been reduced to cartoonish two-dimensional caricatures.
  - pvaldes 4y ago
    The mantra "Simpsons is bad from 13 season", or "from 15 season", or "all after 19 season is garbage", or "the last good season was 23" is just something that people repeat like a parrot moving the date of the season around to fit their time interval experience. Many people blame the Simpsons, when what really happened is that they grow They remember how funny Simpsons were in the past. A past that in fact is highly idealized in their minds. They forget that 70% of the jokes flied totally under their radar at that age, and that understanding the double meanings and finding the hidden twisted messages about how the society works was a lot of the fun. Discoveries are more interesting when you are innocent. To see somebody slip and get hurt in the workplace is not so funny when that person could be you and experience a real workplace. School jokes are more funny when you are at the school and can use that information.
- incanus77 4y ago
  This feels different to me — so much of this content _is already written_ in manuscript and note form and is being edited. And written before many of us were born.
readthenotes1 4y ago
And yet there is also this: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 http://forum.barrowdowns.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16
- lethologica 4y ago
  What is even going on on this forum? Is this fan fiction?
  - readthenotes1 4y ago
    More like a group of amateur historians trying to correct the record
rexpop 4y ago
This is a vividly disgusting analogy and has no place in civil discussion. I happen to be eating my breakfast, and you're threatening my stomach. You can make points without hideous imagery. Meanwhile, you're merely being petulant. People like things, and want more of the things they like. Why shouldn't we prolong their enjoyment where we can? How does it harm us? It's healthier than drinking pus from a dead cow's teat.
- sydd 4y ago
  > People like things, and want more of the things they like. Why shouldn't we prolong their enjoyment where we can? How does it harm us? This is an opinion, no one is asking a ban on making more Marvel or Star Wars universe movies. If you like it, watch it. I'm on the same opinion as the poster above, I cant watch Marvel/DC/Star Wars anymore, they bore me to death. Also they corrupt my memories from the original ones. For example I loved Iron Man, but now there are so many superhero movies that I feel aversion, boredom and some sadness that they have taken away all the magic that these movies had.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    I make some exceptions but like you I just get bored. Even with the best TV series, I'm pretty much ready to check out after about five seasons even if it's still going strong. It's one reason I don't really have a problem with the relatively short durations of a lot of streaming shows so long as they wrap things up reasonably. I also appreciate this isn't a universal opinion and that some people are just fine with endless genre series whether books/TV/film or a show like Grey's Anatomy which has been running for almost 20 years because they're likely just very comfortable with everything about it.
  - rexpop 4y ago
    They're not "asking to ban it," but they are attempting, through obstreperous language, to discourage it.

natly 4y ago

Makes me think of how gross it is that they still milk avicii's brand to this day years after his body left our world.

dylan604 4y ago
Is that even close to the same thing? LOTR keeps getting new "content". Has there been new music released from the library of avicii? I'm not talking about remixes upon remixes. Is there a AviciiSociety in charge of his legacy content that decides who/what/when/where can use the unreleased content to do something new? Maybe there is, and I can learn something new.

adamc 4y ago

Laundry lists of middle earth, coming to a "bookseller" near you. I love LOTR, but this is kind of gross.

havblue 4y ago

This is why some people use the unpleasant metaphor of a skin suit to describe most of the continuing franchises of star wars, trek, marvel etc. They aren't primarily being written or inspired by their creators as much as new people wearing the skin of their creator.

ghaff 4y ago
With rare exceptions like The Mandalorian, I can just no longer summon up enthusiasm or interest in franchises that date back to the 1960s or 70s--even when there's not really anything wrong with a given film or TV show. (Though there are plenty of examples where the latest film or TV show is not in fact very good.)
- all2 4y ago
  I grew up reading my father's pulp scifi collection. I have a keen desire for the gritty Star Wars universe as told by the likes of Timothy Zahn (seriously, the Admiral Thrawn trilogy needs to be faithfully pursued). Even George Lucas was unable to recapture his original vision.
  - ghaff 4y ago
    I'm probably more sympathetic (and often more enjoy) stories that are told in an existing universe but don't overly try to "go home again." Deep Space 9 was a good example in the Star Trek universe and Rogue One in Star Wars.
bartread 4y ago
What particularly struck me about Top Gun: Maverick, which I didn't expect at all, is that it held a very unflattering mirror up to the Marvel dross that's being endlessly churned out by showing how to make an absolutely great action movie. Yes, I know it's a sequel, and yes, there are many aspects of the story that are hardly groundbreaking, but it's just incredibly well done. (I realise TG: Maverick isn't going to be everybody's taste but it's the best film I've seen at the cinema in a long time, and the first time I've walked out of a movie feeling absolutely wowed since, perhaps, The Matrix came out in 1999.)
- inopinatus 4y ago
  I was especially moved by a scene where the Tom Cruise humbly confesses “this is the only look I have”, in relatable acknowledgment of his limitations as an actor.
  - chaoticmass 4y ago
    The whole movie can be taken as a sort of metaphor for how movie stars like Tom Cruise and the movies he makes, with real stunts and little CG, are a dying breed. Especially the scene with Admiral Caine telling Maverick that drones replacing pilots is inevitable, and Maverick replying, "Maybe, but not today."
  - AlwaysRock 4y ago
    Eyes Wide Shut? Collateral? Magnolia? He can certainly play characters outside the big action hero. He just gets paid a shitload of money to keep making shit big budget action movies and he's a high level cult leader who has an ego the size of a planet. He could do well in a little indie movie that pushes his range but his life and personality prevents that way more than his range as an actor.
    - hguant 4y ago
      >Eyes Wide Shut? Tangent about this: There was a very interesting Roger Ebert review of Eyes Wide Shut that addressed some of the criticism of Tom Cruise's acting in that film. Cruise had been described as "wooden" and Ebert came to his defense. Kubrick - who is on record as being a perfectionist who believes that actors are best when they're meat puppets for the director - made Cruise go through 97 takes of walking through a door. Either that's just sadism on part of the director's ego (and there may be something to that, Kubrick is notorious for playing psychological games with actors to get the performance he wants - or Kubrick working to get exactly what he wants on the screen.
honkdaddy 4y ago
The Simpsons is among the absolute worst of offenders. See Dead Homer Society [1] for a passionate fan's detailed explanation. [1] https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/zombiesimpsons/ https://deadhomersociety.wordpress.com/zombiesimpsons/
- wincy 4y ago
  I’m disappointed, the actual book link gives a 404
- dwringer 4y ago
  It's as though the characters have been reduced to cartoonish two-dimensional caricatures.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  The mantra "Simpsons is bad from 13 season", or "from 15 season", or "all after 19 season is garbage", or "the last good season was 23" is just something that people repeat like a parrot moving the date of the season around to fit their time interval experience. Many people blame the Simpsons, when what really happened is that they grow They remember how funny Simpsons were in the past. A past that in fact is highly idealized in their minds. They forget that 70% of the jokes flied totally under their radar at that age, and that understanding the double meanings and finding the hidden twisted messages about how the society works was a lot of the fun. Discoveries are more interesting when you are innocent. To see somebody slip and get hurt in the workplace is not so funny when that person could be you and experience a real workplace. School jokes are more funny when you are at the school and can use that information.
incanus77 4y ago
This feels different to me — so much of this content _is already written_ in manuscript and note form and is being edited. And written before many of us were born.

readthenotes1 4y ago

And yet there is also this: http://forum.barrowdowns.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16 http://forum.barrowdowns.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16

lethologica 4y ago
What is even going on on this forum? Is this fan fiction?
- readthenotes1 4y ago
  More like a group of amateur historians trying to correct the record

rexpop 4y ago

This is a vividly disgusting analogy and has no place in civil discussion. I happen to be eating my breakfast, and you're threatening my stomach. You can make points without hideous imagery. Meanwhile, you're merely being petulant. People like things, and want more of the things they like. Why shouldn't we prolong their enjoyment where we can? How does it harm us? It's healthier than drinking pus from a dead cow's teat.

sydd 4y ago
> People like things, and want more of the things they like. Why shouldn't we prolong their enjoyment where we can? How does it harm us? This is an opinion, no one is asking a ban on making more Marvel or Star Wars universe movies. If you like it, watch it. I'm on the same opinion as the poster above, I cant watch Marvel/DC/Star Wars anymore, they bore me to death. Also they corrupt my memories from the original ones. For example I loved Iron Man, but now there are so many superhero movies that I feel aversion, boredom and some sadness that they have taken away all the magic that these movies had.
- ghaff 4y ago
  I make some exceptions but like you I just get bored. Even with the best TV series, I'm pretty much ready to check out after about five seasons even if it's still going strong. It's one reason I don't really have a problem with the relatively short durations of a lot of streaming shows so long as they wrap things up reasonably. I also appreciate this isn't a universal opinion and that some people are just fine with endless genre series whether books/TV/film or a show like Grey's Anatomy which has been running for almost 20 years because they're likely just very comfortable with everything about it.
- rexpop 4y ago
  They're not "asking to ban it," but they are attempting, through obstreperous language, to discourage it.