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How much responsibility does Google share for US wrecking Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria?

by tomp 4y ago

lostmsu 4y ago
Google doesn't censor antiwar propaganda.
- kgeist 4y ago
  There's no laws in US which punish for spreading antiwar propaganda which Google needs to comply with.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    There's no law that says Yandex must operate in Russia.
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    - kgeist 4y ago
      Yandex has offices in 8 countries. I wonder if they censor news everywhere or only in Russia.
- gambler 4y ago
  Blatantly incorrect. Google engages in egregious political censorship all the time. Including censorship for Russian government and censorship of US anti-war voices. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorship-complaints-with-more-censorship/ https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorshi... https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-covid-election-and-climate-related-ads/ https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-... https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-to-hide-vpn-websites/ https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-t... In US they pretend to "decide" to censor things "on their own" because 1st amendment prevents the government from officially demanding censorship.
  - dang 4y ago
    > This is either astounding ignorance or blatant gaslighting. Can you please edit name-calling / swipes like that out of your HN comments? It breaks the site guidelines and weakens your point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - lostmsu 4y ago
      Considering the importance of the topic, and provided the linked articles actually contained examples of Google censoring anti-war propaganda, I believe the swipe would have been fully justified. Highly emotional tone changes how the data affects the reader. If he is right, I would surely better remember next time that Google is in the same ballpark due to the insult hitting hard. If he is wrong, I will know better to ignore such claims in the future without a direct quote or something else that consumes less time than reading an entire linked article.
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  - lostmsu 4y ago
    None of your links show Google censoring anti-war propaganda.
    - gambler 4y ago
      https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google-censoring-internet-searches-progressive-anti-war-and-socialist-web-sites-are-targetted/ https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google... https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war
      - lostmsu 4y ago
SXX 4y ago
Google is US company which pays taxes in US. The company just like everyone in US obviously do share responsibility for what US government does. Fortunately Google and it's leadership actually does have political positions even if you dont like it. In any case as unfortunate owner of Russian passport with friends and collegues in Ukraine I am more affected by Putins war than by anything US does. So I want Yandex to be seen as part of Kremlin propoganda machine and threated accordingly. This company grew monopoly in many markets in Russia and they directly benefited from Putin regime. Since Ilya Segalovich died company started to be "out of politics" and this complete lack of any political activity lead country to these terrible events.

How much responsibility does Google share for US wrecking Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria?

by tomp 4y ago

How much responsibility does Google share for US wrecking Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and Syria?

lostmsu 4y ago

Google doesn't censor antiwar propaganda.

kgeist 4y ago
There's no laws in US which punish for spreading antiwar propaganda which Google needs to comply with.
- lostmsu 4y ago
  There's no law that says Yandex must operate in Russia.
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - kgeist 4y ago
    Yandex has offices in 8 countries. I wonder if they censor news everywhere or only in Russia.
gambler 4y ago
Blatantly incorrect. Google engages in egregious political censorship all the time. Including censorship for Russian government and censorship of US anti-war voices. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorship-complaints-with-more-censorship/ https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-responds-to-cpac-censorshi... https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-covid-election-and-climate-related-ads/ https://reclaimthenet.org/google-expanded-its-censorship-of-... https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-to-hide-vpn-websites/ https://reclaimthenet.org/russia-continues-to-order-google-t... In US they pretend to "decide" to censor things "on their own" because 1st amendment prevents the government from officially demanding censorship.
- dang 4y ago
  > This is either astounding ignorance or blatant gaslighting. Can you please edit name-calling / swipes like that out of your HN comments? It breaks the site guidelines and weakens your point. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    Considering the importance of the topic, and provided the linked articles actually contained examples of Google censoring anti-war propaganda, I believe the swipe would have been fully justified. Highly emotional tone changes how the data affects the reader. If he is right, I would surely better remember next time that Google is in the same ballpark due to the insult hitting hard. If he is wrong, I will know better to ignore such claims in the future without a direct quote or something else that consumes less time than reading an entire linked article.
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- lostmsu 4y ago
  None of your links show Google censoring anti-war propaganda.
  - gambler 4y ago
    https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://medium.com/dan-sanchez/don-t-see-evil-148ae18bc9fe https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google-censoring-internet-searches-progressive-anti-war-and-socialist-web-sites-are-targetted/ https://citizenactionmonitor.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/google... https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war https://www.protocol.com/bulletins/google-censors-war
    - lostmsu 4y ago

SXX 4y ago

Google is US company which pays taxes in US. The company just like everyone in US obviously do share responsibility for what US government does. Fortunately Google and it's leadership actually does have political positions even if you dont like it. In any case as unfortunate owner of Russian passport with friends and collegues in Ukraine I am more affected by Putins war than by anything US does. So I want Yandex to be seen as part of Kremlin propoganda machine and threated accordingly. This company grew monopoly in many markets in Russia and they directly benefited from Putin regime. Since Ilya Segalovich died company started to be "out of politics" and this complete lack of any political activity lead country to these terrible events.