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So when you google a problem and it leads you to a code snippet that solves it that just happens to be OSS, you immediately scrub your brain and pretend you nev

by skc 4y ago

So when you google a problem and it leads you to a code snippet that solves it that just happens to be OSS, you immediately scrub your brain and pretend you never saw it and instead instead come up with your own completely independent solution after the fact?

avereveard 4y ago
Google usage is outright forbidden for work in institutions that care about intellectual property rights, so the brain scrub issue is just arguing at the wrong level. If you're googling solutions around you're already not taking intellectual property seriously enough to care about what happens after you lift ideas around.
- anonymoushn 4y ago
  Can you name these institutions? I am surprised to hear that some institutions would prevent devs from viewing e.g. documentation of the APIs they are using or academic papers about algorithms for computing the multiplicative inverses of 64-bit integers, if they accessed those things via google
  - avereveard 4y ago
    IBM and another I'm currently under nda I think them being also patent farm has a role in it. Approved dependencies had api doc linked so no need to Google these.
- bloat 4y ago
  This is interesting. Is the internet completely cut off? Do they have internal libraries of documentation for third party stuff they are using (paper? digital?) Do you have any example institutions, or what domain they are working in? Thanks.
  - swader999 4y ago
    I think it would be for super secure military coding. But business domains? Hardly ever.
    - avereveard 4y ago
      The issue doesn't solely rest in copyright A concern, which I think is legit, is that it is quite easy for someone with a strong presence in search, web advertising, analytics and mobile to puzzle together what a company is investing in based on the aggregated research and web access from known locations
- skc 4y ago
  Very surprised to hear about this actually. Maybe I live in a bubble, but the likes of Google/StackOverflow have been part and parcel of a developers toolbox for many years now. And in any case I wonder how that is enforced. Eg, Someone goes home in the evening and visits github, learns a new trick and comes into the office the next day and implements it.
teakettle42 4y ago
> … and instead instead come up with your own completely independent solution after the fact? Yes, I’m not a plagiarist. If you’re literally copying and pasting code snippets without attribution, you’re plagiarizing. You’re also probably violating the OSS project’s license. It’s no different than copying and pasting someone else’s sentence or paragraph into a written paper.

by skc 4y ago

avereveard 4y ago

Google usage is outright forbidden for work in institutions that care about intellectual property rights, so the brain scrub issue is just arguing at the wrong level. If you're googling solutions around you're already not taking intellectual property seriously enough to care about what happens after you lift ideas around.

anonymoushn 4y ago
Can you name these institutions? I am surprised to hear that some institutions would prevent devs from viewing e.g. documentation of the APIs they are using or academic papers about algorithms for computing the multiplicative inverses of 64-bit integers, if they accessed those things via google
- avereveard 4y ago
  IBM and another I'm currently under nda I think them being also patent farm has a role in it. Approved dependencies had api doc linked so no need to Google these.
bloat 4y ago
This is interesting. Is the internet completely cut off? Do they have internal libraries of documentation for third party stuff they are using (paper? digital?) Do you have any example institutions, or what domain they are working in? Thanks.
- swader999 4y ago
  I think it would be for super secure military coding. But business domains? Hardly ever.
  - avereveard 4y ago
    The issue doesn't solely rest in copyright A concern, which I think is legit, is that it is quite easy for someone with a strong presence in search, web advertising, analytics and mobile to puzzle together what a company is investing in based on the aggregated research and web access from known locations
skc 4y ago
Very surprised to hear about this actually. Maybe I live in a bubble, but the likes of Google/StackOverflow have been part and parcel of a developers toolbox for many years now. And in any case I wonder how that is enforced. Eg, Someone goes home in the evening and visits github, learns a new trick and comes into the office the next day and implements it.

teakettle42 4y ago

> … and instead instead come up with your own completely independent solution after the fact? Yes, I’m not a plagiarist. If you’re literally copying and pasting code snippets without attribution, you’re plagiarizing. You’re also probably violating the OSS project’s license. It’s no different than copying and pasting someone else’s sentence or paragraph into a written paper.