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the age old question if the art should be linked or disconnected from the artist

by geek_at 4y ago

rapnie 4y ago
and if technology is neutral.
somenameforme 4y ago
This is nothing like that, because the question is not one of their own personal actions - but of their nationality or ethnicity. That, until about 4 months ago, would have been widely acknowledged as racism. The difference between holding values, and holding values when convenient rather sums up the entirety of human history in one phrase.
- trasz 4y ago
  Yeah, it's certainly about ethnicity, not at all about being controlled by a government which is in the process of perpetrating genocide.
  - 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
    I'm ethnically Russian (mostly), although I've never been to that country and have less influence on their foreign policy than your average European (who at least has some say in how his own country behaves towards Russia — and we've seen how well they managed that). I don't know how this would translate to the real world if I lived in "the West", but from what I'm seeing on the internet for the past few months, it definitely is about ethnicity. I've been called many things and blamed for everything bad that has happened since 1945, and not many seem to care that half of Putin's army consists of people of Asian and Caucasian ethnicities, and there are many Russians in the Ukrainian army. If you go to places like r/worldnews, there are open calls for violence that have strong fascist overtones, and those seem to be getting more popular. Can't say the same about HN, it's one of the few places that seems to have kept its sanity (for now?)
    - trasz 4y ago
      How is your Russian ethnicity different from average Ukrainian? But yes, there is, sadly, some discrimination. It's got nothing to do with ethnicity though; it's the same thing that happened to ordinary Germans in 1939-1945, and for the same reasons.

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the age old question if the art should be linked or disconnected from the artist

by geek_at 4y ago

the age old question if the art should be linked or disconnected from the artist

rapnie 4y ago
and if technology is neutral.
somenameforme 4y ago
This is nothing like that, because the question is not one of their own personal actions - but of their nationality or ethnicity. That, until about 4 months ago, would have been widely acknowledged as racism. The difference between holding values, and holding values when convenient rather sums up the entirety of human history in one phrase.
- trasz 4y ago
  Yeah, it's certainly about ethnicity, not at all about being controlled by a government which is in the process of perpetrating genocide.
  - 5e92cb50239222b 4y ago
    I'm ethnically Russian (mostly), although I've never been to that country and have less influence on their foreign policy than your average European (who at least has some say in how his own country behaves towards Russia — and we've seen how well they managed that). I don't know how this would translate to the real world if I lived in "the West", but from what I'm seeing on the internet for the past few months, it definitely is about ethnicity. I've been called many things and blamed for everything bad that has happened since 1945, and not many seem to care that half of Putin's army consists of people of Asian and Caucasian ethnicities, and there are many Russians in the Ukrainian army. If you go to places like r/worldnews, there are open calls for violence that have strong fascist overtones, and those seem to be getting more popular. Can't say the same about HN, it's one of the few places that seems to have kept its sanity (for now?)
    - trasz 4y ago
      How is your Russian ethnicity different from average Ukrainian? But yes, there is, sadly, some discrimination. It's got nothing to do with ethnicity though; it's the same thing that happened to ordinary Germans in 1939-1945, and for the same reasons.