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Not to question your vernacular but in some circles I think using the f word instead of cigarette could be.. misleading

by s3p 4y ago

jquery 4y ago
- aiisjustanif 4y ago
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- l33t2328 4y ago
  Basic human decency to ask another culture to change its language on behalf of some abstract group that may have members with hurt feelings?
- junon 4y ago
  Gay man here. I'm pretty able to understand what they were intending. Any harm done is self-inflicted.
  - Akronymus 4y ago
    Yeah, having others try to police language on your behalf just screams "I am better than you so I have to protect you" to me.
    - gerdesj 4y ago
      Aye. I picked my words deliberately.
    - jquery 4y ago
      Asking someone not to use american slurs on an American forum is the same as saying 'I'm better than you'? Hard disagree. I think that says a lot more about you than it does about me.
      - junon 4y ago
        The internet is not American. Words mean different things. "Fag" hasn't offended me personally since I was maybe 12. After you hear it about 1000 times, it loses its power. Perhaps we should stop empowering words and start empowering people to ignore such words.
        jquery 4y ago
        “As a black man, I’m fine when other people say the N word. Doesn’t hurt me.” - same energy. Just because you have the privilege to ignore slurs doesn’t mean everyone else does. Your view on slurs isn’t mainstream in the LGBT community. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/white-gay-privilege-exists-all-year-it-particularly-hurtful-during-ncna1024961 https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/white-gay-privilege-ex... https://www.them.us/story/white-gay-men-are-hindering-our-progress https://www.them.us/story/white-gay-men-are-hindering-our-pr... https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2021/8/16/white-lotus-knows-how-skewer-white-gay-privilege https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2021/8/16/white-lotus-kn... [1] I’m glad you feel comfortable in your social standing. Some of us are still fighting for our right to exist. Allowing unchecked bigoted language like that is the ultimate privileged position to take. The next time someone objects to LGBT slurs, consider checking your privilege and staying quiet. The original poster even admitted he used the word deliberately to get a rise out of people. It was done deliberately with malice. [1] “Historically, when we look at how the LGBTQIA+ community interacts with itself, there’s a clear dichotomy to who is “superior.” White cis gay men have always been elevated to a higher status than other members of their community because they’re the most accepted and privileged in society. They move further away from their community because they don’t see themselves as a part of it, but more so a part of an elite society that offers them what they want.”
        junon 4y ago
        The N word doesn't mean a neutral thing in another locality. You're mischaracterizing my point.
  - gerdesj 4y ago
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  - jquery 4y ago
    words don't have inherent meaning. the guy was just seeing what he could get away with and get upvoted for it. why encourage it? the people upvoting your "as a gay man" routine for are the same people voting for Abbot and desantis. They don't like you. They will take away your right to marry when given the chance. Don't kiss their feet for HN karma. HN is an American forum. Asking people not to use American slurs is not asking too much.
    - junon 4y ago
      > the people upvoting your "as a gay man" routine for are the same people voting for Abbot and desantis. Here's the issue. This is the typical American "If you're not 100% for it, then you're 100% against it" attitude. That's not how the world works.
gerdesj 4y ago
Nope: fags are ciggies and that's that. I'm a Brit and you are probably a Yank - we both know exactly what is going on. I am absolutely fucking furious at the moment (nothing to do with this) 8) If some circles are offended then I suggest that's not too bad a thing 8)
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nemothekid 4y ago
>over four years ago after 30 odd years of smoking around 20+ a day. This guy is clearly older (lets say he started smoking at 15, we would be pushing 45 as a lower bound), and he's not American where that word was common slang. I think there's a place to consider intent and realize that this is the internet, and not everyone is an American 20-something.
- gerdesj 4y ago
  Cheers me old fruit! I'm 52 and I have some American relos. I'm well aware of many en_GB: en_US: en_AU: en_NZ and other language/slang ... discontinuities. A daughter in law from FL once explained to me how to pronounce Maryland. I deliberately go in with the "fags" thing on a US based website for the obvious reason - it will almost certainly winkle out a daftie, who even now doesn't realise that a Brit burning a faggot isn't our version of horrific racism. To be fair, we haven't used the term faggot for a chunk of wood for some decades. I absolutely adore our differences and have collected them quite obsessively. I love to watch and hear english being used in all sorts of strange ways!
Mr_Mister_ 4y ago
sigh Yes, because we must all speak like 'merkins. On a serious note, if you are that sensitive, maybe the internet isn't the place for you?

Not to question your vernacular but in some circles I think using the f word instead of cigarette could be.. misleading

by s3p 4y ago

Not to question your vernacular but in some circles I think using the f word instead of cigarette could be.. misleading

jquery 4y ago

aiisjustanif 4y ago
deleted 4y ago
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l33t2328 4y ago
Basic human decency to ask another culture to change its language on behalf of some abstract group that may have members with hurt feelings?
junon 4y ago
Gay man here. I'm pretty able to understand what they were intending. Any harm done is self-inflicted.
- Akronymus 4y ago
  Yeah, having others try to police language on your behalf just screams "I am better than you so I have to protect you" to me.
  - gerdesj 4y ago
    Aye. I picked my words deliberately.
  - jquery 4y ago
    Asking someone not to use american slurs on an American forum is the same as saying 'I'm better than you'? Hard disagree. I think that says a lot more about you than it does about me.
    - junon 4y ago
      The internet is not American. Words mean different things. "Fag" hasn't offended me personally since I was maybe 12. After you hear it about 1000 times, it loses its power. Perhaps we should stop empowering words and start empowering people to ignore such words.
      - jquery 4y ago
        “As a black man, I’m fine when other people say the N word. Doesn’t hurt me.” - same energy. Just because you have the privilege to ignore slurs doesn’t mean everyone else does. Your view on slurs isn’t mainstream in the LGBT community. https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/white-gay-privilege-exists-all-year-it-particularly-hurtful-during-ncna1024961 https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/white-gay-privilege-ex... https://www.them.us/story/white-gay-men-are-hindering-our-progress https://www.them.us/story/white-gay-men-are-hindering-our-pr... https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2021/8/16/white-lotus-knows-how-skewer-white-gay-privilege https://www.advocate.com/commentary/2021/8/16/white-lotus-kn... [1] I’m glad you feel comfortable in your social standing. Some of us are still fighting for our right to exist. Allowing unchecked bigoted language like that is the ultimate privileged position to take. The next time someone objects to LGBT slurs, consider checking your privilege and staying quiet. The original poster even admitted he used the word deliberately to get a rise out of people. It was done deliberately with malice. [1] “Historically, when we look at how the LGBTQIA+ community interacts with itself, there’s a clear dichotomy to who is “superior.” White cis gay men have always been elevated to a higher status than other members of their community because they’re the most accepted and privileged in society. They move further away from their community because they don’t see themselves as a part of it, but more so a part of an elite society that offers them what they want.”
        junon 4y ago
        The N word doesn't mean a neutral thing in another locality. You're mischaracterizing my point.
- gerdesj 4y ago
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- jquery 4y ago
  words don't have inherent meaning. the guy was just seeing what he could get away with and get upvoted for it. why encourage it? the people upvoting your "as a gay man" routine for are the same people voting for Abbot and desantis. They don't like you. They will take away your right to marry when given the chance. Don't kiss their feet for HN karma. HN is an American forum. Asking people not to use American slurs is not asking too much.
  - junon 4y ago
    > the people upvoting your "as a gay man" routine for are the same people voting for Abbot and desantis. Here's the issue. This is the typical American "If you're not 100% for it, then you're 100% against it" attitude. That's not how the world works.

gerdesj 4y ago

Nope: fags are ciggies and that's that. I'm a Brit and you are probably a Yank - we both know exactly what is going on. I am absolutely fucking furious at the moment (nothing to do with this) 8) If some circles are offended then I suggest that's not too bad a thing 8)

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nemothekid 4y ago

>over four years ago after 30 odd years of smoking around 20+ a day. This guy is clearly older (lets say he started smoking at 15, we would be pushing 45 as a lower bound), and he's not American where that word was common slang. I think there's a place to consider intent and realize that this is the internet, and not everyone is an American 20-something.

gerdesj 4y ago
Cheers me old fruit! I'm 52 and I have some American relos. I'm well aware of many en_GB: en_US: en_AU: en_NZ and other language/slang ... discontinuities. A daughter in law from FL once explained to me how to pronounce Maryland. I deliberately go in with the "fags" thing on a US based website for the obvious reason - it will almost certainly winkle out a daftie, who even now doesn't realise that a Brit burning a faggot isn't our version of horrific racism. To be fair, we haven't used the term faggot for a chunk of wood for some decades. I absolutely adore our differences and have collected them quite obsessively. I love to watch and hear english being used in all sorts of strange ways!

Mr_Mister_ 4y ago

sigh Yes, because we must all speak like 'merkins. On a serious note, if you are that sensitive, maybe the internet isn't the place for you?