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I have a little pen called a dosist that stops atomizing the thc once you receive a "dose". It also vibrates to make it more obvious. I love it. I'm able to reg

I have a little pen called a dosist that stops atomizing the thc once you receive a "dose". It also vibrates to make it more obvious. I love it. I'm able to regulate the amount I use and know the effects I feel from x amount of doses. edit: https://dosist.com/faq https://dosist.com/faq

ryanmcbride 4y ago
That sounds perfect for me, I have no problem regulating with normal smoking but for some reason it's harder for me with vapes and I tend to make myself sick.
- xeromal 4y ago
  Let me know if you have any questions
dosethrowaway 4y ago
I don’t mean this to be rude but you fell for the marketing. I was part of the team at a high level for a few years and it’s not precision dose control. Internally it’s like any other disposable vaporizer at an unwarranted markup. It’s just a timer. You can confirm this by thinking through the fact that each need state and each live resin strain has a different composition and viscosity and therefore different vaporization characteristics…yet the buzzer goes off based on a clock.
- xeromal 4y ago
  I see what you mean but honestly when I'm high I lose track of time so 2 seconds of vaping still gets me closer than my brain. Lol
- vonseel 4y ago
  So they need to make vapes work more like inhalers to be precise, but then it would be an inhaler and not a vape I guess.
- sp0rk 4y ago
  It's still producing a metered dose that's probably comparable to other doses from the same cart. I don't think anybody expects doses between carts/strains/batches to be consistent, because the pen would have to know the chemical makeup of each cartridge's contents to adjust itself in this way.
  - serf 4y ago
    >It's still producing a metered dose that's probably comparable to other doses from the same cart. not really, dosing is dictated not only by time but by coil temperature, drag pressure, drag volume, coil wicking, etc. if you have a 3 second timer vape, like the dosit, these variables add enough error that the actual medical dosages vary wildly. An easy example : hit a vape with a timer over and over again. the last hits will almost always have a much strong mouth and denser vapor than the hits prior -- this is because the coil and vaporization 'areas' are now pre-heated from the previous hits and require less energy overall for the same dosage, but this rate varies so wildly that it's an extremely difficult task for a vaporizer to be as dynamic as the dosing rate errors. this was supposed to get fixed with temperature controlled coils, but it only helps things a bit. What someone needs to do is make a vape profile that'll create a dynamic drag time based off of those error variables, but I have yet to encounter such a device.
PragmaticPulp 4y ago
That doesn't solve the problem at all. It's just a timer, but the user's inhalation force still dictates how much of the drug is consumed during that time. Vape cartridges are nowhere near precise enough for normal drug delivery, even with a timer attached. It's just not a precision dosing method. Remember that pharmaceutical users wouldn't have any baseline to work with, whereas vape pen users have calibrated themselves over many doses across many sessions.
- bryans 4y ago
  Inhalation force or speed are not relevant factors. The amount of vapor produced is entirely based on heat transfer and the properties of the oil. You don't even need to be inhaling for the device to produce vapor, but when you finally do, it's the same amount as if you were inhaling the whole time -- though the vapor will taste "scorched" after letting it sit in the chamber over multiple seconds of heating.

ryanmcbride 4y ago

That sounds perfect for me, I have no problem regulating with normal smoking but for some reason it's harder for me with vapes and I tend to make myself sick.

xeromal 4y ago
Let me know if you have any questions

dosethrowaway 4y ago

I don’t mean this to be rude but you fell for the marketing. I was part of the team at a high level for a few years and it’s not precision dose control. Internally it’s like any other disposable vaporizer at an unwarranted markup. It’s just a timer. You can confirm this by thinking through the fact that each need state and each live resin strain has a different composition and viscosity and therefore different vaporization characteristics…yet the buzzer goes off based on a clock.

xeromal 4y ago
I see what you mean but honestly when I'm high I lose track of time so 2 seconds of vaping still gets me closer than my brain. Lol
vonseel 4y ago
So they need to make vapes work more like inhalers to be precise, but then it would be an inhaler and not a vape I guess.
sp0rk 4y ago
It's still producing a metered dose that's probably comparable to other doses from the same cart. I don't think anybody expects doses between carts/strains/batches to be consistent, because the pen would have to know the chemical makeup of each cartridge's contents to adjust itself in this way.
- serf 4y ago
  >It's still producing a metered dose that's probably comparable to other doses from the same cart. not really, dosing is dictated not only by time but by coil temperature, drag pressure, drag volume, coil wicking, etc. if you have a 3 second timer vape, like the dosit, these variables add enough error that the actual medical dosages vary wildly. An easy example : hit a vape with a timer over and over again. the last hits will almost always have a much strong mouth and denser vapor than the hits prior -- this is because the coil and vaporization 'areas' are now pre-heated from the previous hits and require less energy overall for the same dosage, but this rate varies so wildly that it's an extremely difficult task for a vaporizer to be as dynamic as the dosing rate errors. this was supposed to get fixed with temperature controlled coils, but it only helps things a bit. What someone needs to do is make a vape profile that'll create a dynamic drag time based off of those error variables, but I have yet to encounter such a device.

PragmaticPulp 4y ago

That doesn't solve the problem at all. It's just a timer, but the user's inhalation force still dictates how much of the drug is consumed during that time. Vape cartridges are nowhere near precise enough for normal drug delivery, even with a timer attached. It's just not a precision dosing method. Remember that pharmaceutical users wouldn't have any baseline to work with, whereas vape pen users have calibrated themselves over many doses across many sessions.

bryans 4y ago
Inhalation force or speed are not relevant factors. The amount of vapor produced is entirely based on heat transfer and the properties of the oil. You don't even need to be inhaling for the device to produce vapor, but when you finally do, it's the same amount as if you were inhaling the whole time -- though the vapor will taste "scorched" after letting it sit in the chamber over multiple seconds of heating.