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"barely any health risks from vaped nicotine." Heard that for a century from tobacco companies. I guess we will see after 50 years of vaping.

Workaccount2 4y ago
Inhaling combusted plant matter is worlds different than inhaling a nicotine/glycol aerosol.
- FireBeyond 4y ago
  "The potential hazards of chronic inhalation of propylene glycol or the latter substance as a whole are as-yet unknown." What possible harm could come from chronically inhaling a viscous agent into our lungs?
  - samatman 4y ago
    You mean the one asthmatics have been safely inhaling for sixty years? These are asthmatics, reminder. If propylene glycol was a problem for lungs, we would know.
    - FireBeyond 4y ago
      Which medications? Ventolin does not use propylene glycol: https://www.drugs.com/pro/ventolin.html https://www.drugs.com/pro/ventolin.html Airomir did not. Maxair? Nope: https://www.drugs.com/pro/maxair-autohaler.html https://www.drugs.com/pro/maxair-autohaler.html Even pro-vape sites recognize that this is BS. > There is one study looking at the potential to use PG as a carrier for an inhaled medicine (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18158714 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18158714) and another which mentions that PG or ethanol may be used as a cosolvent (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12425745 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12425745) in nebulizers, but no evidence presented of an asthma inhaler or nebulizer that is actually used today containing PG. There's also a huge difference between 3-4 puffs a day of a smaller amount, than chronic hundreds of puffs a day with vapes.
      - samatman 4y ago
        Not which medications, which device: nebulizers. They routinely use propylene glycol: you're wrong, I'm right. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12425745/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12425745/ Severe asthmatics will be on a nebulizer five or ten minutes at a time, several times a day. Far higher volume than the most committed vaper.

Workaccount2 4y ago

Inhaling combusted plant matter is worlds different than inhaling a nicotine/glycol aerosol.

FireBeyond 4y ago
"The potential hazards of chronic inhalation of propylene glycol or the latter substance as a whole are as-yet unknown." What possible harm could come from chronically inhaling a viscous agent into our lungs?
- samatman 4y ago
  You mean the one asthmatics have been safely inhaling for sixty years? These are asthmatics, reminder. If propylene glycol was a problem for lungs, we would know.
  - FireBeyond 4y ago
    Which medications? Ventolin does not use propylene glycol: https://www.drugs.com/pro/ventolin.html https://www.drugs.com/pro/ventolin.html Airomir did not. Maxair? Nope: https://www.drugs.com/pro/maxair-autohaler.html https://www.drugs.com/pro/maxair-autohaler.html Even pro-vape sites recognize that this is BS. > There is one study looking at the potential to use PG as a carrier for an inhaled medicine (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18158714 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18158714) and another which mentions that PG or ethanol may be used as a cosolvent (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12425745 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12425745) in nebulizers, but no evidence presented of an asthma inhaler or nebulizer that is actually used today containing PG. There's also a huge difference between 3-4 puffs a day of a smaller amount, than chronic hundreds of puffs a day with vapes.
    - samatman 4y ago
      Not which medications, which device: nebulizers. They routinely use propylene glycol: you're wrong, I'm right. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12425745/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12425745/ Severe asthmatics will be on a nebulizer five or ten minutes at a time, several times a day. Far higher volume than the most committed vaper.