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As a lifelong heavy marijuana smoker I've got some news for you friend. Weed is addictive too. Smoking plant matter of almost any variety increases cancer risk

As a lifelong heavy marijuana smoker I've got some news for you friend. Weed is addictive too. Smoking plant matter of almost any variety increases cancer risk.

iancmceachern 4y ago
That's why I specified "physically addictive". Yes, weed can be and is addictive, but it's not chemically physically addictive in the same way nicotine or opiates are.
- tgv 4y ago
  And nicotine is nowhere near the addictivity of opiates. Sharing both under the same label is just a frame to make marijuana look better.
  - iancmceachern 4y ago
    I've actually heard the opposite anecdotally so i looked it up. In this study 57% out of 1000 persons seeking treatment for drug and alcohol dependencies said that quitting smoking was harder than their problem substance. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/376289 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/37628... From this article: 'Heroin addicts say it is easier to give up dope than it is to give up smoking,'' says Dr. Sharon Hall, a psychology professor https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/29/magazine/nicotine-harder-to-kickthan-heroin.html https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/29/magazine/nicotine-harder-... I dont have personal experience with opiates, but do with nicotine and I can say it took 10-15 years before I didn't have a regular desire to consume nicotine. It was the hardest thing I've ever done.
    - chitowneats 4y ago
      You can die from opiate withdrawal. It may seem easier to give up, but it is an objectively more addictive substance. Not to mention much more dangerous once becoming addicted.
- sjcoles 4y ago
  I think we're going to see this view change quite a bit with legalization. Consuming large amounts of THC (regardless of delta 8 or 9) on a daily basis is not well understood. If you're eating 100+mg a day you will have physical withdrawal symptoms. This kind of consumption just hasn't been possible, or more likely affordable, for a large swath of the population until a few years ago.
  - mrguyorama 4y ago
    >If you're eating 100+mg a day you will have physical withdrawal symptoms I think your bigger concerns at 100+mg a day will be paying for your habit, and having a life outside of melting onto the couch and watching dumb YouTube videos
    - chitowneats 4y ago
      You can get 100mg of TCH gummies for like 10-15 bucks from most dispensaries. Price per mg only drops from there if you're willing to use concentrates.
      - mrguyorama 4y ago
        That is highly State dependent. Here in Maine, a container of 10 gummies, about 8mg each, is 40$
  - chitowneats 4y ago
    Agreed. It's a pretty stale distinction.

As a lifelong heavy marijuana smoker I've got some news for you friend. Weed is addictive too. Smoking plant matter of almost any variety increases cancer risk.

iancmceachern 4y ago

That's why I specified "physically addictive". Yes, weed can be and is addictive, but it's not chemically physically addictive in the same way nicotine or opiates are.

tgv 4y ago
And nicotine is nowhere near the addictivity of opiates. Sharing both under the same label is just a frame to make marijuana look better.
- iancmceachern 4y ago
  I've actually heard the opposite anecdotally so i looked it up. In this study 57% out of 1000 persons seeking treatment for drug and alcohol dependencies said that quitting smoking was harder than their problem substance. https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/376289 https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/37628... From this article: 'Heroin addicts say it is easier to give up dope than it is to give up smoking,'' says Dr. Sharon Hall, a psychology professor https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/29/magazine/nicotine-harder-to-kickthan-heroin.html https://www.nytimes.com/1987/03/29/magazine/nicotine-harder-... I dont have personal experience with opiates, but do with nicotine and I can say it took 10-15 years before I didn't have a regular desire to consume nicotine. It was the hardest thing I've ever done.
  - chitowneats 4y ago
    You can die from opiate withdrawal. It may seem easier to give up, but it is an objectively more addictive substance. Not to mention much more dangerous once becoming addicted.
sjcoles 4y ago
I think we're going to see this view change quite a bit with legalization. Consuming large amounts of THC (regardless of delta 8 or 9) on a daily basis is not well understood. If you're eating 100+mg a day you will have physical withdrawal symptoms. This kind of consumption just hasn't been possible, or more likely affordable, for a large swath of the population until a few years ago.
- mrguyorama 4y ago
  >If you're eating 100+mg a day you will have physical withdrawal symptoms I think your bigger concerns at 100+mg a day will be paying for your habit, and having a life outside of melting onto the couch and watching dumb YouTube videos
  - chitowneats 4y ago
    You can get 100mg of TCH gummies for like 10-15 bucks from most dispensaries. Price per mg only drops from there if you're willing to use concentrates.
    - mrguyorama 4y ago
      That is highly State dependent. Here in Maine, a container of 10 gummies, about 8mg each, is 40$
- chitowneats 4y ago
  Agreed. It's a pretty stale distinction.