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Just wait until the author needs to use Bluetooth. Or set up audio so it automatically switches between the front and back output when headphones are connected.

Just wait until the author needs to use Bluetooth. Or set up audio so it automatically switches between the front and back output when headphones are connected. Or CUDA. Or 3d acceleration with official drivers. I find FreeBSD to be a technically better operating system than contemporary Lunux-based OSes but hardware support and usability really resembles Linux space before "dumbed down" dostros like Ubuntu where everything worked out of the box, generally. Pretty unfortunate to say the least.

Beltalowda 4y ago
> Lunux > dostros It seems your "i" is broken :-) But yes, hardware (and software) support is the main reason I've been using Linux for the last 5 years after 15 years of FreeBSD. Back in 2000-2010 it would more or less suck equally on both so it didn't really matter, and the Linuxolator was good enough to run most Linux things (played a lot of Unreal Tournament on my FreeBSD box back in the day!), but today is situation is much better on Linux and has kind of stagnated on FreeBSD. This is not entirely FreeBSD's fault, but that doesn't change the end-result, and I have a lot of other things I want to do now than muck about with my system.
vermaden 4y ago
It all depends on many aspects. For example not so long ago I used Ubuntu MATE (whatever was latest) on my son's ThinkPad X220T. I have three issues: - 1st minor: After rotating screen MATE Panel moved in various places (xkill helps) - 2nd minor: sometimes the Bluetooth or WiFi applet in tray area was 'doubled' (did not solved this one) - 3rd major: after suspend/resume cycle I could not get WiFi to work (reboot required) After failing to find solution for this WiFi problem on Ubuntu MATE I though that I will try GhostBSD there (based on FreeBSD STABLE) ... and these were my problems: - 1st major: after suspend/resume cycle I could not get WiFi to work (reboot required) :> So I left my kid with GhostBSD till now - also he likes the 'kernel messages' at boot comparing to 'silent' Ubuntu MATE boot :) Regards.
0des 4y ago
Generally everything after winmodems worked out of the box.
atemerev 4y ago
nvidia drivers work on FreeBSD. No CUDA, though.
- metamuas 4y ago
  Ah, thanks for the clarification.
krylon 4y ago
I used FreeBSD as my main desktop OS from about 2003 to 2005, and I was very happy with it back then. More recently (~2016-2017), I tried to install FreeBSD on an old ThinkPad, and I was not very happy with it. PC-BSD worked fine, but the upgrade/re-install to TrueOS broke; I installed vanilla FreeBSD, but that did not work, either, X11 kept freezing/crashing - at that point I gave up and installed Debian. 15 years ago, I positively enjoyed spending a weekend (or more) trying to figure these things out, but now I am old and grumpy and want my stuff to "just work"(tm). NB that I'm talking about desktop usage - my home server runs FreeBSD, and I could not be happier. In fact, if I wanted to run a BSD on my desktop, I'd look at OpenBSD first (unless I want/need Bluetooth to work...).
- MonkeyClub 4y ago
  > 15 years ago, I positively enjoyed spending a weekend (or more) trying to figure these things out, but now I am old and grumpy and want my stuff to "just work"(tm). [...] > In fact, if I wanted to run a BSD on my desktop, I'd look at OpenBSD first (unless I want/need Bluetooth to work...). That's sort of my case, and given how I don't have much use for Bluetooth, I went with OpenBSD for the desktop. Couldn't be happier - it just works! If I'm not in a mood to mess around with it, I don't have to: it gives me a nimble computation environment and steady upgrades. If I want to mess around, `cd /usr/src` and it's right there, ready to play.
  - krylon 4y ago
    In my experience, under OpenBSD hardware either works well or not at all. No "sorta-kinda works unless there's a lunar eclipse". So when it works, it just works.
metamuas 4y ago
Can you elaborate on CUDA? I thought nVidia prided themselves on FreeBSD support.

Beltalowda 4y ago

> Lunux > dostros It seems your "i" is broken :-) But yes, hardware (and software) support is the main reason I've been using Linux for the last 5 years after 15 years of FreeBSD. Back in 2000-2010 it would more or less suck equally on both so it didn't really matter, and the Linuxolator was good enough to run most Linux things (played a lot of Unreal Tournament on my FreeBSD box back in the day!), but today is situation is much better on Linux and has kind of stagnated on FreeBSD. This is not entirely FreeBSD's fault, but that doesn't change the end-result, and I have a lot of other things I want to do now than muck about with my system.

vermaden 4y ago

It all depends on many aspects. For example not so long ago I used Ubuntu MATE (whatever was latest) on my son's ThinkPad X220T. I have three issues: - 1st minor: After rotating screen MATE Panel moved in various places (xkill helps) - 2nd minor: sometimes the Bluetooth or WiFi applet in tray area was 'doubled' (did not solved this one) - 3rd major: after suspend/resume cycle I could not get WiFi to work (reboot required) After failing to find solution for this WiFi problem on Ubuntu MATE I though that I will try GhostBSD there (based on FreeBSD STABLE) ... and these were my problems: - 1st major: after suspend/resume cycle I could not get WiFi to work (reboot required) :> So I left my kid with GhostBSD till now - also he likes the 'kernel messages' at boot comparing to 'silent' Ubuntu MATE boot :) Regards.

0des 4y ago

Generally everything after winmodems worked out of the box.

atemerev 4y ago

nvidia drivers work on FreeBSD. No CUDA, though.

metamuas 4y ago
Ah, thanks for the clarification.

krylon 4y ago

I used FreeBSD as my main desktop OS from about 2003 to 2005, and I was very happy with it back then. More recently (~2016-2017), I tried to install FreeBSD on an old ThinkPad, and I was not very happy with it. PC-BSD worked fine, but the upgrade/re-install to TrueOS broke; I installed vanilla FreeBSD, but that did not work, either, X11 kept freezing/crashing - at that point I gave up and installed Debian. 15 years ago, I positively enjoyed spending a weekend (or more) trying to figure these things out, but now I am old and grumpy and want my stuff to "just work"(tm). NB that I'm talking about desktop usage - my home server runs FreeBSD, and I could not be happier. In fact, if I wanted to run a BSD on my desktop, I'd look at OpenBSD first (unless I want/need Bluetooth to work...).

MonkeyClub 4y ago
> 15 years ago, I positively enjoyed spending a weekend (or more) trying to figure these things out, but now I am old and grumpy and want my stuff to "just work"(tm). [...] > In fact, if I wanted to run a BSD on my desktop, I'd look at OpenBSD first (unless I want/need Bluetooth to work...). That's sort of my case, and given how I don't have much use for Bluetooth, I went with OpenBSD for the desktop. Couldn't be happier - it just works! If I'm not in a mood to mess around with it, I don't have to: it gives me a nimble computation environment and steady upgrades. If I want to mess around, `cd /usr/src` and it's right there, ready to play.
- krylon 4y ago
  In my experience, under OpenBSD hardware either works well or not at all. No "sorta-kinda works unless there's a lunar eclipse". So when it works, it just works.

metamuas 4y ago

Can you elaborate on CUDA? I thought nVidia prided themselves on FreeBSD support.