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Luckily they don't :) In my opinion Chromium/Chrome is the new IE and not Safari

by wdb 4y ago

horsawlarway 4y ago
I'm sorry - but this is just not a realistic take. Call me when I can install Safari on linux (or any platform other than macOS/iOS). Until then - the ugly truth is that Apple intentionally underfunds and underdevelops the browser because they see it as a fundamental risk to their control and revenue from the App store. It's there because "they have to have a browser" not because they're doing anything novel or clever. And many of the things they refuse to implement aren't related to ads or Google's control at all - they're things that would have narrowed the gap between what a website can do on iOS, and what the App store apps could do. Again - Apple is acting EXACTLY like microsoft here. Underinvesting in the browser because they see it as a fundamental risk to their best revenue stream - much like how MS ignored IE when the focus was all on local apps (the king of which was still MS office).
- threeseed 4y ago
  > the ugly truth is that Apple intentionally underfunds and underdevelops the browser That's not a truth that's an opinion. And one I would definitely disagree with. When it comes to speed, privacy and battery life I am always choosing Safari over Chrome. And many of us care about those three things over new features that often just make the web worse.
  - wdb 4y ago
    Same here. Safari is my preferred browser for content consumption but not for development work
- timw4mail 4y ago
  KDE's Konqueror is a webkit browser, and there are others. Safari is not available on Linux, but it doesn't need to be. I disagree that Apple is underinvesting: their slower, more deliberate pace can be an advantage: you can see the pitfalls of implementations in other browsers. I am not disagreeing that Apple has had their own share of bugs, though.

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Luckily they don't :) In my opinion Chromium/Chrome is the new IE and not Safari

by wdb 4y ago

Luckily they don't :) In my opinion Chromium/Chrome is the new IE and not Safari

horsawlarway 4y ago
I'm sorry - but this is just not a realistic take. Call me when I can install Safari on linux (or any platform other than macOS/iOS). Until then - the ugly truth is that Apple intentionally underfunds and underdevelops the browser because they see it as a fundamental risk to their control and revenue from the App store. It's there because "they have to have a browser" not because they're doing anything novel or clever. And many of the things they refuse to implement aren't related to ads or Google's control at all - they're things that would have narrowed the gap between what a website can do on iOS, and what the App store apps could do. Again - Apple is acting EXACTLY like microsoft here. Underinvesting in the browser because they see it as a fundamental risk to their best revenue stream - much like how MS ignored IE when the focus was all on local apps (the king of which was still MS office).
- threeseed 4y ago
  > the ugly truth is that Apple intentionally underfunds and underdevelops the browser That's not a truth that's an opinion. And one I would definitely disagree with. When it comes to speed, privacy and battery life I am always choosing Safari over Chrome. And many of us care about those three things over new features that often just make the web worse.
  - wdb 4y ago
    Same here. Safari is my preferred browser for content consumption but not for development work
- timw4mail 4y ago
  KDE's Konqueror is a webkit browser, and there are others. Safari is not available on Linux, but it doesn't need to be. I disagree that Apple is underinvesting: their slower, more deliberate pace can be an advantage: you can see the pitfalls of implementations in other browsers. I am not disagreeing that Apple has had their own share of bugs, though.