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Lol it’s also every single company ever. Look at the US/Western twitter accounts of major corporations and they’re all rainbows. Then look at their Middle East

Lol it’s also every single company ever. Look at the US/Western twitter accounts of major corporations and they’re all rainbows. Then look at their Middle East or other regions twitter accounts.. the only color they care about is green. Everything else is marketing backed by legal. I was selected for a project in a Gulf country and we had a preliminary session where I got an eye opener. Basically, no women or gays, no non Islam religious paraphernalia, no atheists, no Jews and if you have Israeli stamp the company would help you get a new passport, no drinking, cover up tattoos. Never noped the fuck outta something as fast as declining that project. No money is worth working for these savage nations. It’s gross how much these corporations act woke in the west and then basically bend to these kinds of countries. Disgusting, and yet everyone in the west eats up the marketing propaganda.

nemo44x 4y ago
> the only color they care about is green. As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. If corporate leaders or employees don’t like it then they can spend their free time lobbying or campaigning for politicians that want to change things. Only after the law is changed should the company make a change. Until then, business as usual.
- spacemanmatt 4y ago
  > Corporations should not have many opinions I'm curious where this view comes from. The last time I checked, corporations are composed of people, and people are fraught with opinion.
- wasmitnetzen 4y ago
  I respectfully disagree. A company is just a group of people, and thus, it has common goals and opinions, like any other group of people.
- bitcurious 4y ago
  > As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. Corporations should operate within the confines of non-discrimination law. If these business opportunities aren’t open to their Jewish or female employees, they are partaking in discrimination.
- Eric_WVGG 4y ago
  some real IBM in the 1930s energy here
- lancesells 4y ago
  IMO this is a terrible take on what companies should be doing. "Unless there's a law against it we should be doing it" is not how people who make up a corporation should be thinking.
- causi 4y ago
  Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. Until we start crucifying corporate lobbyists in the public square, mass criticism is the only weapon we have.
- pmoriarty 4y ago
  "Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law." That would almost be ok if corporations weren't allowed to lobby the government, have their employees, owners or board members go work in politics or have other types of influence on politicians. But they have tremendous influence on the laws that they themselves ostensibly have to follow. Not to mention that: - even when they break laws they tend to get just a slap on the wrist - the corporate execs responsible for the lawbreaking rarely go to jail - even if they're unlucky enough to go to jail the jails tend to be cushy country clubs - execs have golden parachutes that let them cash out even if they screw the company, and can easily get jobs elsewhere (not that the people at the top who bear ultimate responsibility for the company even have to work another day in their life) - corporations manipulate voters' opinions through (perfectly legal) advertising, PR, media ownership/influence, sponsorship, greenwashing, astroturfing, etc
- mikkergp 4y ago
  Weird take in a forum for an industry built on “disruption”
- carapace 4y ago
  This implies that one should set aside moral values when joining a corporation, and that laws can and should enforce morality. Both of those propositions are dubious.
rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y ago
We had a project in a relatively modernized Islamic country, and all the women were basically ripped off the project right before go-live. Men were sent to the country in their stead, and had to pretend they were the ones responsible for building the thing. The women were told it was for their safety, but the rumor was that a week before we were set to travel, the customer had apparently said, "by the way, we don't do business with women."

nemo44x 4y ago

> the only color they care about is green. As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. If corporate leaders or employees don’t like it then they can spend their free time lobbying or campaigning for politicians that want to change things. Only after the law is changed should the company make a change. Until then, business as usual.

spacemanmatt 4y ago
> Corporations should not have many opinions I'm curious where this view comes from. The last time I checked, corporations are composed of people, and people are fraught with opinion.
wasmitnetzen 4y ago
I respectfully disagree. A company is just a group of people, and thus, it has common goals and opinions, like any other group of people.
bitcurious 4y ago
> As it should be. Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. Corporations should operate within the confines of non-discrimination law. If these business opportunities aren’t open to their Jewish or female employees, they are partaking in discrimination.
Eric_WVGG 4y ago
some real IBM in the 1930s energy here
lancesells 4y ago
IMO this is a terrible take on what companies should be doing. "Unless there's a law against it we should be doing it" is not how people who make up a corporation should be thinking.
causi 4y ago
Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law. Until we start crucifying corporate lobbyists in the public square, mass criticism is the only weapon we have.
pmoriarty 4y ago
"Corporations should not have many opinions and should operate within the law." That would almost be ok if corporations weren't allowed to lobby the government, have their employees, owners or board members go work in politics or have other types of influence on politicians. But they have tremendous influence on the laws that they themselves ostensibly have to follow. Not to mention that: - even when they break laws they tend to get just a slap on the wrist - the corporate execs responsible for the lawbreaking rarely go to jail - even if they're unlucky enough to go to jail the jails tend to be cushy country clubs - execs have golden parachutes that let them cash out even if they screw the company, and can easily get jobs elsewhere (not that the people at the top who bear ultimate responsibility for the company even have to work another day in their life) - corporations manipulate voters' opinions through (perfectly legal) advertising, PR, media ownership/influence, sponsorship, greenwashing, astroturfing, etc
mikkergp 4y ago
Weird take in a forum for an industry built on “disruption”
carapace 4y ago
This implies that one should set aside moral values when joining a corporation, and that laws can and should enforce morality. Both of those propositions are dubious.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 4y ago

We had a project in a relatively modernized Islamic country, and all the women were basically ripped off the project right before go-live. Men were sent to the country in their stead, and had to pretend they were the ones responsible for building the thing. The women were told it was for their safety, but the rumor was that a week before we were set to travel, the customer had apparently said, "by the way, we don't do business with women."