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“Institutions” in general don’t have woke messaging, specific institutions do. “Universities” in general don’t have partnerships with the Qatar government, spe

“Institutions” in general don’t have woke messaging, specific institutions do. “Universities” in general don’t have partnerships with the Qatar government, specific universities do. Just because one university is very “woke”, and another university forms a partnership with Qatar does not mean that universities in general are hypocritical, or even that any specific university is hypocritical. If you are going to make such a broad argument as “American universities are hypocritically supporting the Qarar government” as you seem to be, you need to give more examples than just one university forming a partnership with Qatar.

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throwaway894345 4y ago
Is NorthWestern not very woke? Isn't that the campus that launched multiple Title IX inquisition against a law professor on the basis that the law professor criticized Title IX? > Kipnis was the subject of yet another Northwestern Title IX investigation earlier this year — this time for writing “Unwanted Advances: Sexual Paranoia Comes to Campus,” a book about being investigated for saying there are too many Title IX investigations. https://www.thefire.org/breaking-laura-kipnis-second-title-ix-inquisition/ https://www.thefire.org/breaking-laura-kipnis-second-title-i... https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/laura-kipniss-endless-trial-by-title-ix https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/laura-kipniss-endle...
brippalcharrid 4y ago
It doesn't have to be a case of a university signalling to the world that they are embarking on a formal partnership with government of Qatar, it just needs to be one of many indirect mechanisms through which they take a large amount of money that originates from Qatar, and a department or scholar or research foundation or a commercial partnership confers kudos upon a Qatari foundation or the royal family, or indicates patronage. There are a million ways of dressing it up, universities have PR departments and strategic communications consultancies to keep bad news at bay, and few students or academics are going to go to all that trouble to bite the hand that feeds them. You just end up with a state of the art new department building or facility that has been funded by a foundation with an Arabic name (perhaps an Emir or a sheikh's wife or daughter), and some dignitaries attending an opening ceremony on a Saturday morning to a hand-picked crowd while most of the students on campus are sleeping in. None of this is at all remarkable in today's landscape of intense inter-university competition. Also, they're not going to fund sociology departments; it's often directed towards the hard sciences or Arabic language/literature/history/cultural studies. And that's before you get onto endowments from Blue Chip companies that are actually vehicles for wealthy investors.
rayiner 4y ago
I’m thinking of a specific school that has a prominent, and very liberal, journalism school that has deep ties with Qatar: https://freebeacon.com/national-security/inside-qatars-multimillion-dollar-plan-to-mainstream-anti-israel-journalists/ https://freebeacon.com/national-security/inside-qatars-multi...
jsjohnst 4y ago
I’m not getting involved in the debate over what’s a “woke” university and what isn’t (partly because everyone’s definition is different), but here is a non-exhaustive list of American universities partnered with Qatar: - Northwestern University - Cornell University - Carnegie Mellon University - Georgetown University - Texas A&M University - Virginia Commonwealth University That’s just the ones I know of in Qatar, there’s also a bunch more in other gulf region countries (like the UAE).

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throwaway894345 4y ago

Is NorthWestern not very woke? Isn't that the campus that launched multiple Title IX inquisition against a law professor on the basis that the law professor criticized Title IX? > Kipnis was the subject of yet another Northwestern Title IX investigation earlier this year — this time for writing “Unwanted Advances: Sexual Paranoia Comes to Campus,” a book about being investigated for saying there are too many Title IX investigations. https://www.thefire.org/breaking-laura-kipnis-second-title-ix-inquisition/ https://www.thefire.org/breaking-laura-kipnis-second-title-i... https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/laura-kipniss-endless-trial-by-title-ix https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/laura-kipniss-endle...

brippalcharrid 4y ago

It doesn't have to be a case of a university signalling to the world that they are embarking on a formal partnership with government of Qatar, it just needs to be one of many indirect mechanisms through which they take a large amount of money that originates from Qatar, and a department or scholar or research foundation or a commercial partnership confers kudos upon a Qatari foundation or the royal family, or indicates patronage. There are a million ways of dressing it up, universities have PR departments and strategic communications consultancies to keep bad news at bay, and few students or academics are going to go to all that trouble to bite the hand that feeds them. You just end up with a state of the art new department building or facility that has been funded by a foundation with an Arabic name (perhaps an Emir or a sheikh's wife or daughter), and some dignitaries attending an opening ceremony on a Saturday morning to a hand-picked crowd while most of the students on campus are sleeping in. None of this is at all remarkable in today's landscape of intense inter-university competition. Also, they're not going to fund sociology departments; it's often directed towards the hard sciences or Arabic language/literature/history/cultural studies. And that's before you get onto endowments from Blue Chip companies that are actually vehicles for wealthy investors.

rayiner 4y ago

I’m thinking of a specific school that has a prominent, and very liberal, journalism school that has deep ties with Qatar: https://freebeacon.com/national-security/inside-qatars-multimillion-dollar-plan-to-mainstream-anti-israel-journalists/ https://freebeacon.com/national-security/inside-qatars-multi...

jsjohnst 4y ago

I’m not getting involved in the debate over what’s a “woke” university and what isn’t (partly because everyone’s definition is different), but here is a non-exhaustive list of American universities partnered with Qatar: - Northwestern University - Cornell University - Carnegie Mellon University - Georgetown University - Texas A&M University - Virginia Commonwealth University That’s just the ones I know of in Qatar, there’s also a bunch more in other gulf region countries (like the UAE).