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My personal opinion is that prostitution by any person under 25 or maybe even 30 should be illegal. Once your brain is mature—sure, go ahead and do it. My exper

My personal opinion is that prostitution by any person under 25 or maybe even 30 should be illegal. Once your brain is mature—sure, go ahead and do it. My experience with former prostitutes who started out young was that they were unaware of the price they eventually paid for their actions. They were taken advantage of because they were at a disadvantage. If you’re over 25 or 30 go ahead. Before that, it’s just so likely to end up wrong.

feet 4y ago
Tbh we should probably reform many of our laws to focus on ages ~25-26
ipnon 4y ago
We need one age when a child becomes a an adult. Otherwise we end up with college juniors who can't drink a beer and highschool freshman who receive capital sentences. In both circumstances it seems that the rights of the young were curtailed for the benefit of the old.
- giterdone 4y ago
- fritztastic 4y ago
  I've seen a lot of discussions that tend to go with 25 as the age of maturity, based on studies of brain development. It seems to me that the ages for things (weapons, voting, marriage, joining the military, drugs [alcohol, cigarettes, etc], entering a strip club, being charged as an adult, and so on) have been determined/changed over time separately, and there are exceptions to each rule as well as different standards in different parts of the world. I agree that 25 is a good standard generally for many things- although I also think a very important discussion needs to be had about the subject.
- yardstick 4y ago
  Does that include normalising the minimum age allowed for a US President? (Currently 35 years old) I don’t believe in a one age fits all laws approach. Where I’m from, most things switch to adult at 18 - including drinking, voting, enlisting. Murder/criminal convictions are possible before that. I don’t think a killer should go free just because they were were 10 years old when they abducted, tortured, mutilated and killed a toddler. And then went on to become a pedophile. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
  - Dracophoenix 4y ago
    The President is an odd scenario in relation to other heads of state, however William Pitt the Younger was only 24 when he was Premier of the British Empire at one of its highest points. While the age requirement for the Presidency has been observed, that hasn't always been the case with senators (30) or representatives (25). The youngest senator in American history (John Eaton) was inducted at the age of 28, and the youngest representative (William Charles Cole Claiborne) at the age of 21.
__alexs 4y ago
It's almost like it being illegal (and yet also in massive demand) creates a culture of exploitation that damages people more than the actual work does.
Flatcircle 4y ago
The comments here are surprising in regards to how many people assume all people in a major city are rational decision makers. There's this utopian notion that sex workers are just like you and me, except their hard on their luck so they're choosing to do sex work and so we should make it as legal as possible for them. The truth is nearly all sex workers are drug addicts that need serious help. Like assuming gun owners are all rational people or motorcycle riders should be able to make the correct decision about protecting their head. Some things in life, the state should deter people from doing in everyway possible because it's just extremely horrible for humans to engage in.
- andi999 4y ago
  "The truth is nearly all sex workers are drug addicts that need serious help" maybe this correlation holds because prostitution is illegal. In the sense that non drug addicts wont choose it because of the illegality.
  - elzbardico 4y ago
    No. This holds even for countries where prostitution is legalized and widely accepted by society.
    - PickledHotdog 4y ago
      Source?
      - elzbardico 4y ago
        Real life.
    - andi999 4y ago
      Check out claim 9 https://prostitutescollective.net/fact-and-fiction/ https://prostitutescollective.net/fact-and-fiction/
- grapeskin 4y ago
badRNG 4y ago
> My experience with former prostitutes who started out young was that they were unaware of the price they eventually paid for their actions. They were taken advantage of because they were at a disadvantage. It feels like this line of thought would apply even stronger toward military service.
- mantas 4y ago
  Military is a necessity for a society. Actually, a mandatory service may be a good deterrence from questionable endeavours in foreign lands. Meanwhile prostitution is a disadvantage to society as a whole when you take the whole surrounding business and expenses.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    > Military is a necessity for a society Citation needed. It's highly dependent on the country ( e.g. the Maldives sure as hell don't need an army, but a navy/coast guard is important), it's circumstances (nobody is endangering the US or Canada in any way).
    - nomel 4y ago
      Military is there to protect enforce the sovereignty of the society. Without it, the society is at the whims of its neighbors. > Navy is important. Navy is military, of course. > nobody is endangering the US or Canada Or, nobody is endangering the US or Canada because of the US military.
      - feet 4y ago
        Or they could try getting along with their neighbors instead of threatening them
        nomel 4y ago
        Military is used, the vast majority of the time, as a deterrent to prevent threats. There's a war going on in Ukraine right now that is a good example of how sometimes "getting along" isn't an option, for one of the parties, who didn't have a sufficient deterrent. You have to either accept that some humans are "bad", and have deterrents for them, or you have wait for a "bad" human to come and take what they want.
jl6 4y ago
This idea that 25 is the true age of maturity... is it possible that the thing that makes a 25 year old mature is having had 7 years of adult responsibilities? If we set the age of adulthood to 25, maybe people won't be mature until 32.
- nomel 4y ago
  This is biological maturity, as in when the brain is done forming. But, to your point, I wonder how much of that formation is guided by “soft” constructs like social maturity. Assuming it was delayed, maybe you end up with a different brain formation.
- HKH2 4y ago
  The brain physically reaches maturity at around that age. From memory, the last place to finish development is the prefrontal cortex (where decision making occurs).

feet 4y ago

Tbh we should probably reform many of our laws to focus on ages ~25-26

ipnon 4y ago

We need one age when a child becomes a an adult. Otherwise we end up with college juniors who can't drink a beer and highschool freshman who receive capital sentences. In both circumstances it seems that the rights of the young were curtailed for the benefit of the old.

giterdone 4y ago
fritztastic 4y ago
I've seen a lot of discussions that tend to go with 25 as the age of maturity, based on studies of brain development. It seems to me that the ages for things (weapons, voting, marriage, joining the military, drugs [alcohol, cigarettes, etc], entering a strip club, being charged as an adult, and so on) have been determined/changed over time separately, and there are exceptions to each rule as well as different standards in different parts of the world. I agree that 25 is a good standard generally for many things- although I also think a very important discussion needs to be had about the subject.
yardstick 4y ago
Does that include normalising the minimum age allowed for a US President? (Currently 35 years old) I don’t believe in a one age fits all laws approach. Where I’m from, most things switch to adult at 18 - including drinking, voting, enlisting. Murder/criminal convictions are possible before that. I don’t think a killer should go free just because they were were 10 years old when they abducted, tortured, mutilated and killed a toddler. And then went on to become a pedophile. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
- Dracophoenix 4y ago
  The President is an odd scenario in relation to other heads of state, however William Pitt the Younger was only 24 when he was Premier of the British Empire at one of its highest points. While the age requirement for the Presidency has been observed, that hasn't always been the case with senators (30) or representatives (25). The youngest senator in American history (John Eaton) was inducted at the age of 28, and the youngest representative (William Charles Cole Claiborne) at the age of 21.

__alexs 4y ago

It's almost like it being illegal (and yet also in massive demand) creates a culture of exploitation that damages people more than the actual work does.

Flatcircle 4y ago

The comments here are surprising in regards to how many people assume all people in a major city are rational decision makers. There's this utopian notion that sex workers are just like you and me, except their hard on their luck so they're choosing to do sex work and so we should make it as legal as possible for them. The truth is nearly all sex workers are drug addicts that need serious help. Like assuming gun owners are all rational people or motorcycle riders should be able to make the correct decision about protecting their head. Some things in life, the state should deter people from doing in everyway possible because it's just extremely horrible for humans to engage in.

andi999 4y ago
"The truth is nearly all sex workers are drug addicts that need serious help" maybe this correlation holds because prostitution is illegal. In the sense that non drug addicts wont choose it because of the illegality.
- elzbardico 4y ago
  No. This holds even for countries where prostitution is legalized and widely accepted by society.
  - PickledHotdog 4y ago
    Source?
    - elzbardico 4y ago
      Real life.
  - andi999 4y ago
    Check out claim 9 https://prostitutescollective.net/fact-and-fiction/ https://prostitutescollective.net/fact-and-fiction/
grapeskin 4y ago

badRNG 4y ago

> My experience with former prostitutes who started out young was that they were unaware of the price they eventually paid for their actions. They were taken advantage of because they were at a disadvantage. It feels like this line of thought would apply even stronger toward military service.

mantas 4y ago
Military is a necessity for a society. Actually, a mandatory service may be a good deterrence from questionable endeavours in foreign lands. Meanwhile prostitution is a disadvantage to society as a whole when you take the whole surrounding business and expenses.
- sofixa 4y ago
  > Military is a necessity for a society Citation needed. It's highly dependent on the country ( e.g. the Maldives sure as hell don't need an army, but a navy/coast guard is important), it's circumstances (nobody is endangering the US or Canada in any way).
  - nomel 4y ago
    Military is there to protect enforce the sovereignty of the society. Without it, the society is at the whims of its neighbors. > Navy is important. Navy is military, of course. > nobody is endangering the US or Canada Or, nobody is endangering the US or Canada because of the US military.
    - feet 4y ago
      Or they could try getting along with their neighbors instead of threatening them
      - nomel 4y ago
        Military is used, the vast majority of the time, as a deterrent to prevent threats. There's a war going on in Ukraine right now that is a good example of how sometimes "getting along" isn't an option, for one of the parties, who didn't have a sufficient deterrent. You have to either accept that some humans are "bad", and have deterrents for them, or you have wait for a "bad" human to come and take what they want.

jl6 4y ago

This idea that 25 is the true age of maturity... is it possible that the thing that makes a 25 year old mature is having had 7 years of adult responsibilities? If we set the age of adulthood to 25, maybe people won't be mature until 32.

nomel 4y ago
This is biological maturity, as in when the brain is done forming. But, to your point, I wonder how much of that formation is guided by “soft” constructs like social maturity. Assuming it was delayed, maybe you end up with a different brain formation.
HKH2 4y ago
The brain physically reaches maturity at around that age. From memory, the last place to finish development is the prefrontal cortex (where decision making occurs).